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Hi, I play autumn leaves with Heritage's archtop guitar. If you have time, please listen to it. Thank you.
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New Heritage Tap Tuned Archtop Model? H-717
TalismanRich replied to tbonesullivan's topic in Heritage Guitars
The archtop market is different from the normal electric guitar market. There aren't a ton of companies making them. Most are smaller hand builds and most often they are made to order. While $13k isn't cheap, it really isn't out of line with other custom archtop builders. American Archtops go up to about 16 grand, Wilkie archtops start at 15 and go to $25k. Marchione runs $25 to 50K. The affordable archtops are from Eastman, running from $2500 to $5500. I do find it interesting that Heritage is staying somewhat active in the market with the Eagle, 575, and now the 517. It's a nice looking guitars, for sure. -
New Heritage Tap Tuned Archtop Model? H-717
bolero replied to tbonesullivan's topic in Heritage Guitars
Looks nice! There's 3 different threads here about the same gtr. Don't you guys read before you post? Big news though: the 1st new model in a long time. Undertstandable. -
yeah, the Tube Shop was solid. So far I have had very limited success with NOS tubes. maybe it is user error but I find they fail at a much higher rate than my experience with new production tubes - both preamp and power sections. I've not liked JJs at all until they came in this 3rd Power amp. they sound great in this amp. they sound a little different but as good as TAD 6L6GC and Telefunken 6L6GC.
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New Heritage Tap Tuned Archtop Model? H-717
tbonesullivan replied to tbonesullivan's topic in Heritage Guitars
I mean, Chicago Music Exchange has a used one from 1994 for about 3700. I was tempted. -
New Heritage Tap Tuned Archtop Model? H-717
RJLII replied to tbonesullivan's topic in Heritage Guitars
They need to resurrect the H-516. Gimme that with a fat neck and some P90s. Jazz, blues, rock, country. It would be a do it all guitar. I’m convinced it would sell for less than $13k. -
New Heritage Tap Tuned Archtop Model? H-717
rwinking replied to tbonesullivan's topic in Heritage Guitars
Easily affordable for the working jazz musician. -
Very nice guitar. I don't think climbing back into the jazz box market would be a bad business move at all for them. I like the headstock variation.
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New Heritage Tap Tuned Archtop Model? H-717
big bob replied to tbonesullivan's topic in Heritage Guitars
Not tap tuned, tone-tapped spruce top -
A speaker that is rated at twice the amp power rating has long been the safe standard, or the combination of multiple speakers equaling twice the rated power. I personally don’t think that is really necessary though. I have now built 3 6g3 amps and paired them with 65 watt Scumback M75 Speakers. I would use lower wattage but there isn’t one until you get down to 25 watts. The amps have varied in output based on the power transformer used and plate voltage supplied. The lowest wattage of the three was 12.9 clean and 17.4 cranked all the way up with 355 volts on the plates. That would be fine for a 25 watt speaker. The first one I built I used a vintage spec PT and had 440 volts in the plates which gave almost 30 watts when fully turned up, that would not be good for a 25 watt speaker. So from a manufacturing standpoint, a company would spec a speaker that can cover variations like that. Smaller builders may have much less variation or can even spec the speaker based on a single build. I’m comfortable with a speaker that is around 10 watts more than the amp is rated for something lower wattage like a 17 watt amp. I built a JTM 45 that maxes out at 42.78 watts (JTM 42.78?) and I’m comfortable using the same 65 watt M75 in that amp but I probably wouldn’t go lower than that. The last gig I used that amp on I had a 200 watt Eminence Em12n speaker and it sounded great, especially clean. There is zero speaker breakup but the dirty sound is just a little sterile compared to the M75 that gets a little breakup and adds some warmth to the sound. Some may prefer the 200 watt speaker though, to each their own. The amp has a master volume and I turned it down to the level the sound guy wanted, then when I got home I measure the output. I played the gig at 14.5 watts dirty and about 8 watts clean with a 200 watt speaker. 8 watts with an efficient speaker is louder than most people realize and with todays stage management makes amps like the JTM 45 obsolete without a master volume or attenuation. I have a 20 speaker that is going into yet another 6g3 variant I’m building only this is a single channel and uses 6k6GT power tubes and should max out at 10-12 watts and be perfect for most places I play.
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Introducing the Heritage Custom Shop Core Collection H-717
Gitfiddler replied to pressure's topic in Heritage Guitars
Now that's a gorgeous archtop! And Henry Johnson is the perfect player to endorse it. Unfortunately it's priced over my pay grade at $12,999. https://heritageguitars.com/products/custom-shop-core-collection-h-717-archtop-guitar-honey-burst -
Introducing the Heritage Custom Shop Core Collection H-717
skydog52 replied to pressure's topic in Heritage Guitars
A new model. Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! -
Introducing the Heritage Custom Shop Core Collection H-717
golferwave replied to pressure's topic in Heritage Guitars
Gotta love HJ! Great guitar and great player! Thanks for posting! -
New Heritage Tap Tuned Archtop Model? H-717
tbonesullivan replied to tbonesullivan's topic in Heritage Guitars
It definitely is reasonably priced for what it is, and now that Gibson has pretty much pulled out of that market entirely, it was time for Heritage to get back into it. Still, I'd think you'd at least be able to specify a color for that price. Then again, compared to flat top acoustics, archtops are definitely a much higher end and more limited market item. I was always amazed at how Heritage was able to offer different types of archtops at a relatively low price compared to G-brands. I wonder how it compares to the archtops that Heritage used to make like the Sweet 16. Which of them were tap tuned? I admit I never paid nearly as much attention to the Jazz Box side of things. -
New Heritage Tap Tuned Archtop Model? H-717
pressure replied to tbonesullivan's topic in Heritage Guitars
What a surprise, a new Fab jazz guitar from Heritage. Reasonably priced for a hand built American made jazz guitar. -
I'm still in mourning over the closure of the "The Tube Shop", which is where I got a lot of ANOS (As New Old Stock Used) preamp tubes, as well as some NOS rectifier tubes. Yes it was all order by email and they would get back to you, but I got some great tubes at nice prices. There's still KCA Nos Tubes out there, which has some good deals on the ANOS tubes. JJ Tubes, unfortunately are now the tube of choice for a lot of amp companies, as they can withstand high cathode follower voltages, and are rugged. My Mesa Mark V was full of them when I got it, and I think my Friedman JEL-50 probably is as well. When I get some time I've gotta get rollin' rollin' rollin'. Keep those tubes a rollin'.
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OH man, I guess everyone was checking their email at the same time. I took too long looking up other custom builders prices to compare. They really do look great, but at that price, I'd want to at least be able to specify a color.
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I had thought that the days of the Tap Tuned Archtops was over, but apparently it's not. I hadn't heard anything about this before until I got the email. I'm glad that they are once again making them, but oh boy, that price. I'd probably rather get something truly bespoke for that price. https://heritageguitars.com/pages/core-collection-h-717 https://heritageguitars.com/products/custom-shop-core-collection-h-717-archtop-guitar-honey-burst
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Yup. You heard it right! A never before seen model. $13,000 preorder price tag. https://heritageguitars.com/pages/core-collection-h-717?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=heritage_cc_h717_launch&_kx=8S7Pryne8iVHkMd7iIneKdcDnOrmsHWLAFD7ZyhpLIg.MS4EWn
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I am 100% in favor of spending the money on NOS PREAMP tubes. They sound great (better than current production preamp tubes) and last at least 10-12-15 years with regular use. As far as paying top dollar for NOS power tubes, no thanks. I never heard a difference and I really like the Tungsol RI, TAD, and other reissue power tubes. The main preamp and power tubes that I (personally) can't stand are JJ tubes. To me they are sterile and lifeless. Yea, they work, but that's about all they do well. I had two sets of JJ power tubes redline and have a major failure, nearly ruined a Carr Rambler amp that I used to have. No other power tubes failed on me like the JJs did.
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Welcome to the Heritage Owner's Club! That certainly is a great guitar! (Don't worry about the Gibson thing. Many of us have some Gibby's laying around... including myself.) I only have one Custom Core at the moment and I really dig it.
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Fantastic!
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Thanks, I appreciate it! Can’t wait to get it all fixed up.
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Short shaft pots should work. However make sure that the shaft is long enough to fit through the top. Some short shaft pots are designed to be used with pickguards. You need bushings that are at least 3/8" long. These will work. https://www.philadelphialuthiertools.com/electronics/pots/cts-500k-split-shaft-audio-taper-potentiometer-fine-spline/