selector70 Posted September 1, 2010 Posted September 1, 2010 Hi guys, I'm a newb, haing trouble finding info on a Heritage guitar i boguth in the 80's. Its a gray suede finish, single cutaway, one humbucker, grover tuners. Still have it but it needs restored and its been routed for a floyd. 80's carze at the time. Does anybody have any info or pics on this guitar? Thanks. Selector70
brentrocks Posted September 1, 2010 Posted September 1, 2010 Hi there....welcome to the club! ....is it either of these 2?
SouthpawGuy Posted September 1, 2010 Posted September 1, 2010 If I remember correctly someone in the UK was enquiring about a similar model a few months back. Unfortunately I can't remember the model name. I'm sure Brent will know it straight off. edit .... I see Brent is quick on the draw today !!!
selector70 Posted September 1, 2010 Author Posted September 1, 2010 OMG, thats IT!!! H101 Thanks guys! Will Heritage restore it? costs? i'd like to send it back. Although its been routed. This guitar hauled ass!! Hi there....welcome to the club! ....is it either of these 2?
tulk1 Posted September 1, 2010 Posted September 1, 2010 that might build you a new body?Ma, I wish I'd thought of that when we were there last month. I'd like a new body. Maybe about 35lbs lighter than it currently is.
pushover Posted September 2, 2010 Posted September 2, 2010 Ma, I wish I'd thought of that when we were there last month. I'd like a new body. Maybe about 35lbs lighter than it currently is. I'm sure they'd accommodate ya.. Just be aware... as for the new trim shape, it's all done with the binding (did you say you were in to S&M?).. as soon as you remove that.. boing.. you go back to your original shape.
BMG Posted September 2, 2010 Posted September 2, 2010 I tell my wife all the time, "I'm in shape, round IS a shape"
Ric Posted March 18, 2011 Posted March 18, 2011 Hi Guys, I'm Riccardo, a luthier in Torino - Italy - brand new member of this community, so accept my english as it is. I fortunatly found you while searching information about the restauring of an Heritage electric guitar model H 101. I post some dettailed pictures as further reference, I hope not too much. The story of this guitar start some years ago; I found it in a small guitar show and I traded it in a bigger instrument exchange, the instrument was complete but in a very bad condition, particularly for what concerns the finish. The owner told me he tought it was something custom or customized, made approximatly around 1990, pick up made by Oberheim or Moog (?) and that was all. I got it because I wrongly tought that it's serial D 14 081 could be like April, 14th, 1981 ( I born April 14th 1966 ), now I know that real life is a little far from my dreams... I explored it and found diffeent identification nuber over the inkprint on the heastock back, that told me the instrument was older...but no other info about it. Controls says 1980 for tone and 1981 for volume, pick ups December, 9th, 1978 - all these data are pre-fabrica,is it? -. Years later, during a visit at the winter NAMM show I tried to find some information about this instrument, and I directly asked it to the Heritage Amps boot people. Through them, I was put in contact with mr. Ren of The Heritage guitars company, that just confirm me the instrument was an H 101 model, refino or with the original paint removed, no pictures or info available for restauring it and he moreover didn't trust that I could be able to correctly restaure it because the original 'velvet-rubber-like' finiture was propertory and no more available on the market. Well...what a beautiful challange for me to bet on - and win for sure! The pictures tells you the story of the instrument, with it untouched wiring, bridge, neckplate, knobs and with the - many - overspray layer during it's life that I found on the cavity cover plate. Fortunatly, the body has never been sanded and I do think the black coat on the raw wood of the body - poplar or less probable maple, I suppose - coud be something like a filler or color-base layer from the original finish...I don't know. Anyway now I found the producer of the rubber paint ;-), we call it "grinzato" effect due to the smooth curved lines on it's surface, called in Italian "grinze". I just miss the colour in catalogue at that time, but if I understand well your comments, probably there are no more than very few of this guitars in the world, so any colour that match your pictures could be good, red too. Moreover, with your pictures, I understand that the control cavity cver plate was, and have to be refinish in simple black plastic as it was. I still have a doubt concerning the neckplate: it seem to be sprayed with a really thin coat of rubber-like paint, but with no releif effect - maybe has gone - and it's in a strange "greige" colour...maybe some of you owner can help me in this. Now, after a P.U. base, I 'm ready to refin this Lady - and send a finished job picture to Ren! - thank you so much for any, higly appreciated help in this. Ciao, Riccardo
H Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 Ciao Riccardo, benvenuto al club HOC La mia cognata habita a Varese! My wife is a fluent Italian speaker, unfortunately I'm not. She helped me with the words above. Fantastic restoration work - well done!
bebove64 Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 Ciao Riccardo, Welcome to another new IHOC!Your English is ok!I've got your same problem,It's not easy to explain everything in english,not our mother language,but everybody here is so frendly and very helpful.In my opinion,You'd start this interesting conversatation as a new topic. It's not easy to find Heritage guitars,expecially old models, all around "the Boot" Magnifico lavoro Ren sarà ricuramente orgoglioso di tutto ciò! Io abito a Venezia,centro storico e sono amicissimo di Mauro Freschi,un tuo collega liutaio di Villorba,specializzato in archtops e manouche guitars. Have fun and join in the conversations .keep in touch! bebove
koula901 Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 selector 70 and Brently -- are those active pickups in those guitars?
Ric Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 Hi People, and thank you for a so heartful welcome...! In the next days I'll post the producer name and article code of the correct paint, so if any of you needs a restoration on an H 101 could have the properly entry. The two big question about this job that I'm finishing * and that I need to know before spray the rubber-like finish are: 1) Have the cavity cover plate to be painted as the rest of the body? - If I trust in the paint layer that I found on it I have to suppose yes; if I trust on the linked pictures on the other trehad of this forum, I have to suppose no. - 2) Same story for the neckplate? - it seems to be originally painted as the body too, but I prefere to be sure of it and the linked pictures are not so dettailed to let me see it. *- at the moment I've under restoration an '83 kramer Baretta, a '63 Eko Barracuda 12 string, a '73 Fernandes The Revival, and last but not least this H 101, all mine axes - There are three more minor questions for what I'd like to have an answer if possible... Dating - Serial says '87, p.up '78, pots '80 and '81 what's the correct one? Case - Do this guitar has a case when originally put on the market and if yes, there is any picture of it w/logo? People - How many people owners of an H 1** series are we right now? I heard notice that are really few... Ciao, thanks a lot for attention and courtesy. Riccardo. P.S. - I'm really not able to open a new discussion about this and I don't even know if it useful/necessary...I grow up with dos 2.0 and if it needs, I kindly ask to owner/moderator or any outhorized member to do it. Thanks once more.
big bob Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 selector 70 and Brently -- are those active pickups in those guitars? no they are bill Laurence designed Humbuckers.. and they rock... I had a set in a 120... Please do not scuttle the pups..
SouthpawGuy Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 Hi Ric, I can't help you with the paint or finish but just a thought on the dates of the pots and pickups, they probably had a stock of parts dating back several years. I know that with G&L they are still using up decals and other parts from the 1980s, it seems that Leo Fender liked to buy in bulk. Maybe the guys in Heritage did the same, or perhaps they inherited the parts when Gibson left for Nashville.
Blunote Posted March 21, 2011 Posted March 21, 2011 Those Pots look like what I have in my H150P. Mine are 450K instead of the 500K Heritage puts in now. What make are they?
DetroitBlues Posted March 21, 2011 Posted March 21, 2011 Seeing paint and overspray on the control cavity cover and neck plate are signs of an amateur repaint job. There is no way a professional guitar company like Heritage would ever paint over those items....
selector70 Posted August 26, 2011 Author Posted August 26, 2011 Hi Guys, I'm Riccardo, a luthier in Torino - Italy - brand new member of this community, so accept my english as it is. I fortunatly found you while searching information about the restauring of an Heritage electric guitar model H 101. I post some dettailed pictures as further reference, I hope not too much. The story of this guitar start some years ago; I found it in a small guitar show and I traded it in a bigger instrument exchange, the instrument was complete but in a very bad condition, particularly for what concerns the finish. The owner told me he tought it was something custom or customized, made approximatly around 1990, pick up made by Oberheim or Moog (?) and that was all. I got it because I wrongly tought that it's serial D 14 081 could be like April, 14th, 1981 ( I born April 14th 1966 ), now I know that real life is a little far from my dreams... I explored it and found diffeent identification nuber over the inkprint on the heastock back, that told me the instrument was older...but no other info about it. Controls says 1980 for tone and 1981 for volume, pick ups December, 9th, 1978 - all these data are pre-fabrica,is it? -. Years later, during a visit at the winter NAMM show I tried to find some information about this instrument, and I directly asked it to the Heritage Amps boot people. Through them, I was put in contact with mr. Ren of The Heritage guitars company, that just confirm me the instrument was an H 101 model, refino or with the original paint removed, no pictures or info available for restauring it and he moreover didn't trust that I could be able to correctly restaure it because the original 'velvet-rubber-like' finiture was propertory and no more available on the market. Well...what a beautiful challange for me to bet on - and win for sure! The pictures tells you the story of the instrument, with it untouched wiring, bridge, neckplate, knobs and with the - many - overspray layer during it's life that I found on the cavity cover plate. Fortunatly, the body has never been sanded and I do think the black coat on the raw wood of the body - poplar or less probable maple, I suppose - coud be something like a filler or color-base layer from the original finish...I don't know. Anyway now I found the producer of the rubber paint ;-), we call it "grinzato" effect due to the smooth curved lines on it's surface, called in Italian "grinze". I just miss the colour in catalogue at that time, but if I understand well your comments, probably there are no more than very few of this guitars in the world, so any colour that match your pictures could be good, red too. Moreover, with your pictures, I understand that the control cavity cver plate was, and have to be refinish in simple black plastic as it was. I still have a doubt concerning the neckplate: it seem to be sprayed with a really thin coat of rubber-like paint, but with no releif effect - maybe has gone - and it's in a strange "greige" colour...maybe some of you owner can help me in this. Now, after a P.U. base, I 'm ready to refin this Lady - and send a finished job picture to Ren! - thank you so much for any, higly appreciated help in this. Ciao, Riccardo sorry i missed this, yeah pickups were not active
Breadfreak Posted August 26, 2011 Posted August 26, 2011 Hi there....welcome to the club! ....is it either of these 2? Wow, talk about minimalistic! Not even a tone control on there!
fatarthur Posted September 26, 2011 Posted September 26, 2011 Hi Brentrocks - been over a year since I visited this site !! Did I ever post a reply to thank you for the pictures ? If i didn't ,I'm really sorry,(never intended to seem ungrateful). Yep, that's it, the H101, it's really basic, but that's what attracted me to it in the first place, wanted something that would be simple to keep and just make a sound. It's not my favorite guitar by any means, I guess it doesn't really suit my style of playing, but, sometimes, when I haven't seen it for a couple of months, I find the inexplicable desire to get it out of it's case to try and forgive it one last time. It never ceases to amaze me that this must have been one of the first models to be run out of the factory back in the 80's, but there's not much information I can find out there about them. Perhaps it's a bit of a frankenstein piece, made of odds and ends laying about - don't get me wrong, it's a really well made bit of kit - but grey suede !! what were the guys thing of ! ooh, the urge is on me again, off of the cupboard to dust off that case.
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