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525 can't do jazz.... or can it?


Kuz

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Sounds great! What do you use to record? Was that direct or through an amp? Software? etc.....

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Sounds great! What do you use to record? Was that direct or through an amp? Software? etc.....

 

Heritage 525 p-90 neck pup ----> Axe-Fx dialing a Fender Twin modeled amp with Reverb & Delay -----> Boss 1600 recorder

 

All effects are with the Axe-Fx no post processing.

 

The backing track is one my teacher gave to me.

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Some talk in posts awhile ago saying that a 525 was to bright & snappy to do jazz.

 

I'll let you guys be the judge...

 

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songI...;songID=9720495

 

 

Equinox is one of my favorite Coltrane tunes. Yes, the 525 sounds very good. And you are an excellent player, which is more important.

 

So where did the background to Unequinox come from?

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Kuz,

nice playing, man. Real good tone.

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Good sound. Jazzer Mike Stern uses a solid-body Fender Telecaster, as example, so just about any guitar can do it depending upon the player. Something with an f-hole or two would sound the best in my opinion.

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Got caught listening with my eyes closed. Really!! I was listening to a jazz tune by one of my buds. Seriously.

 

Oh well, I thought it was pretty cool.

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Thanks so much guys for all the kind replies.

 

The real intention behind the post was to show the flexibility of this guitar in terms of TONE.

 

It can do jazz, blues, Chet-style country, and if you are George Thorogood........

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Great music John.

 

It's funny how people say their guitar or a particular guitar isn't too good for jazz, rock, whatever, and we want a better guitar for the job. Then some one who can really play comes along and all of a sudden shows you what a fantastic guitar you've got, and all the time it's you... ha ha!

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Nice music. I swear I have to put up a sample of my playing soon. You guys make me jealous.

 

Is it that the thin lines (semi hollow) get more sustain and are better for fusion style? Can you get a 175 type of bebop sound out of something like a 525?

 

I'm doing tons of soul searching here. In one band we play Larry C. type jazz rock, and in the other, it's more like straight ahead jazz. I'm wondering if one guitar can do it all. My sights have been set on a 575, but I'm concerned that feedback will become an issue if I start wailing with it.

 

I need your wisdom here. I'm still 'stuck' playing my custom strat, which I love. I need me some humbucking, woody, rebar-for-strings kind of mojo. Will the 575 cut it? Or should I look for a semi?

 

pusher.

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Nice music. I swear I have to put up a sample of my playing soon. You guys make me jealous.

 

Is it that the thin lines (semi hollow) get more sustain and are better for fusion style? Can you get a 175 type of bebop sound out of something like a 525?

 

I'm doing tons of soul searching here. In one band we play Larry C. type jazz rock, and in the other, it's more like straight ahead jazz. I'm wondering if one guitar can do it all. My sights have been set on a 575, but I'm concerned that feedback will become an issue if I start wailing with it.

 

I need your wisdom here. I'm still 'stuck' playing my custom strat, which I love. I need me some humbucking, woody, rebar-for-strings kind of mojo. Will the 575 cut it? Or should I look for a semi?

 

pusher.

 

The 525, 530, 550, 575, Eagles and 16's are all full hollow and will cause feedback issues at high volumes. But they also give up those fat, warm jazz tones in spades!

 

If you are looking for that Carlton tone, sustain and minimal feedback, you might try the 535, Millie, 158 or 155. I've heard wonderful jazz/fusion tones from a Millie on YouTube. I forget the player, but very impressive.

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Nice music. I swear I have to put up a sample of my playing soon. You guys make me jealous.

 

Is it that the thin lines (semi hollow) get more sustain and are better for fusion style? Can you get a 175 type of bebop sound out of something like a 525?

 

I'm doing tons of soul searching here. In one band we play Larry C. type jazz rock, and in the other, it's more like straight ahead jazz. I'm wondering if one guitar can do it all. My sights have been set on a 575, but I'm concerned that feedback will become an issue if I start wailing with it.

 

I need your wisdom here. I'm still 'stuck' playing my custom strat, which I love. I need me some humbucking, woody, rebar-for-strings kind of mojo. Will the 575 cut it? Or should I look for a semi?

 

pusher.

 

I found my 530 to be pretty resistant to feedback....just have to be careful where I place the amp. I use a set of ground-round 11's on the 530 and can get a pretty passable bebop sound, but am really shooting for "The Grant Green". (thinline hollow, p90's and tube amp)

 

If I want to go for the Wes/Burrell sound I grab the Eastman strung with TI flat 13's and the solidstate Fender!

 

One guitar to rule them all?!? A 535/555 will do everything you need in jazz circles

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I appreciate the suggestions and feedback. I've considered the 535/555, but the body size is too big. 16" or smaller bout is for me. The 575 is still my favorite so far.

 

The search continues. I feel like the universe will drop the right axe in my lap when the time is right. I have never even laid my eyes on a Heritage yet. Just through the computer. It'll happen, I'm sure.

 

For now, I'm just working on my chops. Love this sight and all of you nice and hilarious and helpful people. You sure do loves yer guitars.

 

All the best,

 

push

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Nice music. I swear I have to put up a sample of my playing soon. You guys make me jealous.

 

Is it that the thin lines (semi hollow) get more sustain and are better for fusion style? Can you get a 175 type of bebop sound out of something like a 525?

 

I'm doing tons of soul searching here. In one band we play Larry C. type jazz rock, and in the other, it's more like straight ahead jazz. I'm wondering if one guitar can do it all. My sights have been set on a 575, but I'm concerned that feedback will become an issue if I start wailing with it.

 

I need your wisdom here. I'm still 'stuck' playing my custom strat, which I love. I need me some humbucking, woody, rebar-for-strings kind of mojo. Will the 575 cut it? Or should I look for a semi?

 

pusher.

 

As a player who can't have the luxury of both, I have an H555, which is a semi solid along the lines of a Gibson 355 (only we here think Heritage are better of course!). I am not a particularly skilled Jazz player, but my friend peteraltongreen, also a member of this forum, has several clasy full hollow body jazz guitars, including a very nice 575. He can make my H555 sound fabulous playing any jazz and bring out some great tones. I have often played his 575 at his house but although it is a fabulous guitar, because of its very nature, it is prone to feedback. If it is a case of one or the other, the semi solid will be a better bet for both jazz rock, fusion and straight jazz. Here's a pic of my H555. Maybe you would get used to the 535/555? They are very comfortable guitars to work with.

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As a player who can't have the luxury of both, I have an H555, which is a semi solid along the lines of a Gibson 355 (only we here think Heritage are better of course!). I am not a particularly skilled Jazz player, but my friend peteraltongreen, also a member of this forum, has several clasy full hollow body jazz guitars, including a very nice 575. He can make my H555 sound fabulous playing any jazz and bring out some great tones. I have often played his 575 at his house but although it is a fabulous guitar, because of its very nature, it is prone to feedback. If it is a case of one or the other, the semi solid will be a better bet for both jazz rock, fusion and straight jazz. Here's a pic of my H555. Maybe you would get used to the 535/555? They are very comfortable guitars to work with.

 

Do the 535/555 have 16" bouts? I thought they were at least 17". I just looked on the Heritage site and they say 16". Must be. Every time I've picked up a 335, they seemed huge.

 

pusher.

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