H 170 changes.

[glaister]

Hello all,I`ve owned an `88 H 170 for a number of years,but only recently found you guys here.The newer H 170`s shown here seem to differ in shape/specs from my own,what has been changed and when were these changes made? Thanks.

[FredZepp]

Heritage H 170 Specifications :

 

Neck : 17 degree peghead pitch; one piece mahogany neck.

 

Fingerboard : 24 3/4” scale rosewood fingerboard with 22 frets; mother of pearl position markers.

 

Body : Double cutaway; solid body with solid carved curly maple top and mahogany back; cream bound top; with cream pickguard.

 

Body Size :

 

Rim Thickness - 1 1/2”

Body Width - 12 1/2”

Body Length - 17 1/4”

 

Electronics : Two humbucking pickups with exposed coils; two volume and one master tone control with selector switch.

 

Hardware : Chrome plated hardware.

 

H 170 - Same as H-170CM except with 2 Seymour Duncan Stag Mag pickups with two push-pulls for volume, humbucking and coil-tap selections.

[brentrocks]

Welcome!

 

the bodies on the H 170s now are thicker, the horns are more rounded....i think those are the 2 big differences

[glaister]

Thanks,I`m also seeing a totally different neck joint,more akin to a dc lp junior,whereas my own is done more like a Vee. The newer horns look plain ugly to me,why was that done?

[FredZepp]

Here is an '86 H170 for comparison..

or an '85..

 

new H-170..

 

The H-140 went through the same evolution of the shape of the horn....

[Gitfiddler]

Looks like the newer models had their wings clipped. I agree. The older version looks better to me as well.

[koula901]

Yeah, I gotta agree - I think the pointier horns do look better - more modern.

[tbonesullivan]

did they change the horns on the H170 at the same time they changed them on the H150 to avoid problems with Gib$on?

[tulk1]

Looks to me like the original model H170 is a double cut H140. Current model H170 is a double cut H150. And since the current model H140 is a smaller version of the H150, it follow that the H170 would look like the H150/H140. Only double cut ................ or something like that.

[Gitfiddler]

did they change the horns on the H170 at the same time they changed them on the H150 to avoid problems with Gib$on?

 

 

That may be correct, but it makes no sense to me since the original 170 looked more like an Ibanez Artist than a double-cut Gibson.

[smurph1]

That may be correct, but it makes no sense to me since the original 170 looked more like an Ibanez Artist than a double-cut Gibson.

+1 on that.. EXACTLY like the AR-300 I used to have..

[smurph1]

Heritage H 170 Specifications :

 

Neck : 17 degree peghead pitch; one piece mahogany neck.

 

Fingerboard : 24 3/4” scale rosewood fingerboard with 22 frets; mother of pearl position markers.

 

Body : Double cutaway; solid body with solid carved curly maple top and mahogany back; cream bound top; with cream pickguard.

 

Body Size :

 

Rim Thickness - 1 1/2”

Body Width - 12 1/2”

Body Length - 17 1/4”

 

Electronics : Two humbucking pickups with exposed coils; two volume and one master tone control with selector switch.

 

Hardware : Chrome plated hardware.

 

H 170 - Same as H-170CM except with 2 Seymour Duncan Stag Mag pickups with two push-pulls for volume, humbucking and coil-tap selections.

The horns may be a bit ugly, but (as usual) the finish is gorgeous!!

[big bob]

That may be correct, but it makes no sense to me since the original 170 looked more like an Ibanez Artist than a double-cut Gibson.

But if you change the Jig for the 150, you change the jig for the 170. (cutting/routing jig) that is

[tulk1]

Or ... maybe they've just moved away from the sharp, pointy horn era of guitars. Except for the Anniv H140, that is.