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RS Guitarworks Wiring/Pots/Caps for Coil Tap & Out-of-Phase


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For my planned Prospect build I've talked ad nauseum about, and my H-150 for that matter, I'm also considering or wondering the feasibility of an RS Guitarworks kit with a coil-tap, out-of-phase, and in-a-series options (from the Pagebucker wiring & push/pull pots). Basically:

 

1) Will they work & be compatible? And:

 

2) What kit/parts would I need to get? I have a Pagebucker system for the H-150 and will either get one for the Prospect of have Heritage do a similar setup on their end with Push/Pull pots that will pretty much do the same thing. Also, as far as the types of RS kits (wiring, "bees", etc.), I'm all ears on which ones seem to be the best crowd pleasers, or whatever you'd call it.

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David,

 

I'm interested, too.

 

I didn't find a harness of theirs with a push/pull.

 

I'm making my own harness and have ruined two spare standard pots in the process. Fortunately they are cheap.

 

Once I get the harness right, I'll pull the existing harness out and solder the new one in.

 

RS has helpful videos.

 

This process has given me more respect for the factory solderers. It must take a few dozen guitars to get very comfortable doing this.

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They DO have Push/Pull Pots, so presumably they could tell me:

http://store.rsguitarworks.net/PP500SH.html

 

I guess I should email them, or sent (yet another) email asking if & how adding that to my list of items. For now, it's just figuring out the right question so they know just what in the heck I'm asking. It's not that complicated, I just worry I'll ask some uber-convoluted question and they'll not know really how to respond.

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They do have the pots but not a prewired harness with the pots in them.

 

They would probably put that harness together for you. I thought I'd try it myself first. So far I haven't burned myself.

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They do have the pots but not a prewired harness with the pots in them.

 

They would probably put that harness together for you. I thought I'd try it myself first. So far I haven't burned myself.

 

Gotcha on both accounts!

 

Good luck avoiding burns.

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FredZepp's got a setup like this, maybe he'll weigh in with some help.

 

What kind of music do you play that requires so many possibilities?

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Gotcha on both accounts!

 

Good luck avoiding burns.

 

 

I'm not being clear. I can't find a prewired harness that has push/pull pots at RS Guitarworks. There are other harnesses though.

 

I got my push/pull pots from Alpha.

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I'm not being clear. I can't find a prewired harness that has push/pull pots at RS Guitarworks. There are other harnesses though.

 

I got my push/pull pots from Alpha.

I've always had a heck of a time trying to solder to the back of Alpha pots - they are good quality and a great price, but I went back to using CTS for that very reason (much easier to put a puddle of solder on to)

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FredZepp's got a setup like this, maybe he'll weigh in with some help.

 

What kind of music do you play that requires so many possibilities?

 

Good question. I probably don't "require" so many possibilities. I mainly play Rock (classic and modern), Post-Rock, some melodic fairly high-gain/Metal (not a ton, but it's an interest), a bit of Blues, and have an interest in learning Jazz and maybe some Classical elements. I'm getting the coil-taps just to be able to putz around with really clean-tone single-coil stuff, plus I like the option of going from super clean Tele-like to (at least relatively, not necessarily burn-your-face-off) heavy parts within a song to Stratty mid-position.

 

So part of it's just having options to play with, part of it is I really plan to use the range. Not on every song, and most of the time I'll probably just play with the standard humbuckers, but there are songs and ideas for multi-part songs where I would want/need to go from very clean & quiet to very loud and overdriven. Nothing I need (I could do all that to some extent with playing style and the volume knob), but it's an option and I'd like to see if it's worthwhile. It also keeps me from having to buy several guitars for sounds I would only play around with (not that I won't get said guitars designated for specific sounds, but it lets me play around until I ever decide to get them).

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Since my Prospect was built in 2009 Heritage has been using cts pots however there MIGHT be a difference with the RS superpots but their wire and jacks/switches are of superior quality. It's easy to call RS and speak to Billy or another tech and they will make recommendations and prewire an assemble or you could buy their components and let Heritage put it together.

Guest mgoetting
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It makes sense to split hotter pups, but I amy be wrong on this.

 

I have a guitar with Super Distortions that have high resistance and output. Surprisingly, they sound good rolled back a bit, nice and clean. They seem ideal to split.

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It makes sense to split hotter pups, but I amy be wrong on this.

 

I have a guitar with Super Distortions that have high resistance and output. Surprisingly, they sound good rolled back a bit, nice and clean. They seem ideal to split.

If the super distortions are anything like my Duncan distortions. Coiltops work wonderfully, keep in mind that the physics of tapping the pickup turns off one coil of the humbucker.

 

Have fun guys...

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FredZepp's got a setup like this, maybe he'll weigh in with some help.

 

What kind of music do you play that requires so many possibilities?

My 157 was set up with the push-pull arrangement when I got it used.

 

The toggle was damaged in shipping and when a local shop went to replace it , they said that the leads weren't really long enough to do it properly.

But when they opened the control cavity, they decided that it was beyond them , so we gave it to their repair guy. He looked at it and was unsure if he was up to wiring this one, but finally decided to tackle it.

He wired it , calling me on the phone to play it for me and ask if it sounds right... and he wasn't sure what some of the odd parts in there ( some additional caps? ) were doing.

 

Result.. it was finally fixed after some delay and sounds great.

It has Sheptone PAF Tribute pu's and they are great, very lively and articulate. And the single coil sound is surprisingly strat-ish. ... it's good up to classic or heavy rock, but not a pickup I'd want to use for high gain, due to microphonics.

It's fun to have so many tones, but it'll operate as normal if desired also.

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