Heritage Neck Pocket

[Patrick]

I might be mistaken, but this photo of my 170 pre finish looks to show the elusive long tenon. maybe?

 

With all of the bickering there has been here on HOC over that last year on the subject of long vs short tenons, I can't believe that you waited until now to show this irrefutable testimony to the perceived additional strength and stability of a longer tenon vs a shorter one. I guess you just realized it yourself?

[brentrocks]

This has been brought up at the PSPs several times. The only response we've been able to get out of Ren is, "It's deep enough".

 

 

thats also what SHE said....

[big bob]

With all of the bickering there has been here on HOC over that last year on the subject of long vs short tenons, I can't believe that you waited until now to show this irrefutable testimony to the perceived additional strength and stability of a longer tenon vs a shorter one. I guess you just realized it yourself?

Bingo.. I was looking over the old photo's on my hard drive and there it was.

[tbonesullivan]

double cuts are a different animal than single cuts. By nature they have much less surface area for bonding than a single cut, and there is less wood around it to strengthen it. My Gibson SG Supreme has the 61 style neck joint, and lemme tell you that can't be more than 2 inches long total. I'm much more fond of the late 60's neck joint on my SG Standard, which looks to be at least an inch and a half longer.

 

Now, does anyone have any pictures of a pre-join H150 neck and body?

[bolero]

yeah that'd be interesting...I have peered into the drilled hole from the pup wiring, but can't really determine anything

[Craigs12]

Ok, I just have a few things to say on this subject. First, compare the sustain on a Heritage vs a Gibson, side by side and what you will find is that the string gage as well as bridge and tail piece height and angle play more of a roll than tenon length. And I also agree that Gibson has to justify their obsurdly high price (not sure if thats even a word)! The 59 re-issue has a laminated finger board, thats right, its not solid rosewood, the inlays are plastic, that is also right, the bottom line is, is that Gibson, like so many companies, does what it can to keep costs down, even if it means compromising quality. Someone has to pay for all that advertising! I am not saying that you shouldn't buy a Gibson (I personally would prefer one over an import guitar), but just know what you are getting. The standard Heritage H-150 is built a lot closer to the 1959 Les Paul, than the Gibsons 1959 re-issue, and for less than half the price, to me this is a no brainer.

[davesultra]

Again,... "Long tennon, Schlong tennon"!

[bolero]

[HANGAR18]

Well, I can tell you what kind of neck joint I don't want. One of those new weird tenons that Gibson is doing to all their Les Paul Standard guitars these days. (See attached photo.) I probably don't like it because it's new and weird.

 

Maybe it's stronger, or maybe using a CNC machine like that helps speed up the neck fitting process on the assembly line.

 

One of the big reasons I like Heritage guitars is that they are made the "old school" way.