Schwantz Posted January 22, 2011 Posted January 22, 2011 Hi ! I would like to know what is the difference beetween H150, H140 and H157. I'm new to Heritage guitar, and in my eyes excep for some cosmetic difference they seems to be very similar. 157 beeing something like a LP Custom, 150 like a Gibson LP standard , does 140 likes a studio ? Where can i find some good spec for Heritage guitar, their web site is of no use for that, you can't find any proper spec there. Please let me know Thank you !
FredZepp Posted January 23, 2011 Posted January 23, 2011 Hello and Welcome Schwatz, Some quick comparisons for you.. ( we will compare the current versions, as there is a 1st generation H-140 that is a bit different) The H-140 is not like a studio, it is a slightly thinner version of the H-150 and pretty close to the same cost. It has dot inlays in the fretboard and an upgraded curly maple top. H 140 2nd Edition Specifications : H-140 specs 24- 3/4” scale 22 fret bound dot rosewood board Joins at 16th fret Solid mahogany neck 17” length solid mahogany body Upgraded curly maple, cream bound top 12- 1/2” width with 1- 5/8” rim H 150 Specifications :H-150 CM specs Neck : 17 degree peghead pitch; one piece mahogany neck. Fingerboard : 24 3/4” scale rosewood cream bound fingerboard with 22 frets; mother of pearl trapezoid inlays. Body ; Single cutaway solid body with solid carved curly maple top and solid mahogany back; cream bound top; with cream pickguard. Body Size : Rim thickness - 2” Body width - 13” Body length - 17 1/4” Electronics : Two chrome plated Seymour Duncan pickups; two volume and two tone controls with selector switch. Hardware : Chrome plated hardware. And, as you noted, the H-157 differs from the H-150 mostly in trim (inlays and binding) and an ebony board, not rosewood. H 157 Specifications : H-157 specs Neck : 17 degree peghead pitch; one piece mahogany neck; white bound head veneer with mother of pearl inlay. Fingerboard : 24 3/4” scale ebony white bound fingerboard with 22 frets. With mother of pearl block inlays. Body : Single cutaway solid body with solid carved maple top and solid mahogany back; multiple white bound top and back; bound wood pickguard. Body Size : Rim Thickness - 2” Body Width - 13” Body Length – 17 1/4” Electronics : Two gold plated humbucking pickups; two volume and two tone controls with selector switch. Hardware : Gold plated hardware. But, as Heritage is a custom shop, all of these models can be ordered with slightly different features...
Schwantz Posted January 23, 2011 Author Posted January 23, 2011 Thank's for the reply Fredzepp ! so in resume the H-140 is thinner, shorter end slimmer than a H150 et H157 For the rest that's exacly what i was saying , the Heritage web site have only vague spec Seymour Duncan pick up ( wich one) seth lover,Jb,59 ??? they don't have a standard each guitar is custom ? for the 157 they said Humbucker pic up, wow its like saying that its a wood made guitar.
FredZepp Posted January 23, 2011 Posted January 23, 2011 Thank's for the reply Fredzepp ! so in resume the H-140 is thinner, shorter end slimmer than a H150 et H157 For the rest that's exacly what i was saying , the Heritage web site have only vague spec Seymour Duncan pick up ( wich one) seth lover,Jb,59 ??? they don't have a standard each guitar is custom ? for the 157 they said Humbucker pic up, wow its like saying that its a wood made guitar. Ha.. I know what you mean.. and yes, they really are customized to that degree... ( for instance, a dealer may order most of his stock with certain features, or the buyer spec out the prefered combination for them ) But really most are SD '59 pickups, as they are a popular and versatile pickup. Often the label in the control cavity will list if they are Seth Lover pickups ( another popular choice) or something different..
pcovers Posted January 23, 2011 Posted January 23, 2011 In my ownership experience with both H150 and H140, I found them to be tonally interchangeable. The only real difference is that the H140 does feel (to me) a little more comfortable to hold and play. A little easier to handle and a little lighter in weight, though not a lightweight. Both are great guitars. Both in the LP range of tone and feel.
Schwantz Posted January 23, 2011 Author Posted January 23, 2011 Thank you ! Tone was my next question In my ownership experience with both H150 and H140, I found them to be tonally interchangeable. The only real difference is that the H140 does feel (to me) a little more comfortable to hold and play. A little easier to handle and a little lighter in weight, though not a lightweight. Both are great guitars. Both in the LP range of tone and feel.
peerless Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 Thank you ! Tone was my next question Yeah, as far as I can tell my favorite guitar which is a 140 is right in the middle of the 150 tonal range. All guitars are a little different. If you want a classic 150 tone but the clear advantages of a 140 you wont sacrifice anything tonally. I do not think. I am always interested in hearing other peoples opinions on the issue. Sometimes I think the 140 has an edgier tone but that could be the HRW's which are pretty modern sounding take on the PAF. Its a hi fi'ish pup. I put Bare Knuckles in all my single cuts and strats know, by default however, the 140 is the only guitar I kept the original HRW's in. Its the only guitar I have with HRWs. I love my 140 and I know a lot of other players speak highly of theirs as well. The guitar is so comfortable and has a really good tone that never gets muddy. 150's seldom muddy up with the correct 'pups for the guitar but the Gibbys do. Gibson did a really nice version of a Les Paul Light in the mid eighties. Not the studio light that would later become more popular. This guitar had LP custom style binding and even the belly cut. These guitars are quite popular now and fetch good money and players swear by them. We bought one off ebay recently and its a nice guitar but it has nothing on a 140. My 140 is just so well balanced and comfortable. Very light weight. Its a real secrete given how little you hear about them and how nice it sounds and plays. Historically. I see why Heritage introduced their solid body line with the 140. It truly is an advancement in the single cut line. I still love my 150 though, so you can't underestimate tradition.
peerless Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 Thank you ! Tone was my next question Yeah, as far as I can tell my favorite guitar which is a 140 is right in the middle of the 150 tonal range. All guitars are a little different. If you want a classic 150 tone but the clear advantages of a 140 you wont sacrifice anything tonally. I do not think. I am always interested in hearing other peoples opinions on the issue. Sometimes I think the 140 has an edgier tone but that could be the HRW's which are pretty modern sounding take on the PAF. Its a hi fi'ish pup. I put Bare Knuckles in all my single cuts and strats know, by default however, the 140 is the only guitar I kept the original HRW's in. Its the only guitar I have with HRWs. I love my 140 and I know a lot of other players speak highly of theirs as well. The guitar is so comfortable and has a really good tone that never gets muddy. 150's seldom muddy up with the correct 'pups for the guitar but the Gibbys do. Gibson did a really nice version of a Les Paul Light in the mid eighties. Not the studio light that would later become more popular. This guitar had LP custom style binding and even the belly cut. These guitars are quite popular now and fetch good money and players swear by them. We bought one off ebay recently and its a nice guitar but it has nothing on a 140. My 140 is just so well balanced and comfortable. Very light weight. Its a real secrete given how little you hear about them and how nice it sounds and plays. Historically. I see why Heritage introduced their solid body line with the 140. It truly is an advancement in the single cut line. I still love my 150 though, so you can't underestimate tradition.
tulk1 Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 I'm surprised this pic hasn't been posted in this thread. It's a pile of H140 bodies with an H150 on top. Pretty danged cool, if you ask me.
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