banjomania Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 I love my two heritages and am quite gung ho about them in general. i have a h575 and an eagle classic. But it seems the headstock veneers are not as well finished as on some other guitars or my banjos. i'm not sure if its an orange peel texture or just doesnt have that nice , dark shiny overlay with a flawless finish, but something just doesnt look quite right.it may be the inlay material that says the heritage. any thoughts? i've seen pics of some that even look like paint. now dont get me wrong, i'm hooked on heritage. the headstocks are the only things i've seen that, at least on the models that dont have fancy inlay , look a little less than what they could be.
High Flying Bird Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 I love my two heritages and am quite gung ho about them in general. i have a h575 and an eagle classic. But it seems the headstock veneers are not as well finished as on some other guitars or my banjos. i'm not sure if its an orange peel texture or just doesnt have that nice , dark shiny overlay with a flawless finish, but something just doesnt look quite right.it may be the inlay material that says the heritage. any thoughts? i've seen pics of some that even look like paint. now dont get me wrong, i'm hooked on heritage. the headstocks are the only things i've seen that, at least on the models that dont have fancy inlay , look a little less than what they could be. On most of the Heritage guitars I have seen the logo on the headstock is a stencil. You had better keep any tape damn far away from it. I tell you this from experience. A local repair guy lifted that stencil off with some tape when doing a repair to a buddy's 150. Another buddy has a large part of his father's gun collection. I took photos of the stuff one day. A lot of asian pistols. I would love to hear about your old shotguns. Pistol linkage This pistol was in perfect working order. Here I am about to pop a cap in somebody's arse. (Note, I am holding the pistol sideways as is required when "popping a cap" in somebody's arse. East Coast Style.) (As similar thing happened in California. Guit's wife shot this thug deader than 4 O'clock with an air pistol right after this photo was taken. West Coast Style.)
barrymclark Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 You know, I came into this one thinking this was another one of those threads. haha. Pleasant surprise.
Guest HRB853370 Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 On most of the Heritage guitars I have seen the logo on the headstock is a stencil. You had better keep any tape damn far away from it. I tell you this from experience. A local repair guy lifted that stencil off with some tape when doing a repair to a buddy's 150. Another buddy has a large part of his father's gun collection. I took photos of the stuff one day. A lot of asian pistols. I would love to hear about your old shotguns. Pistol linkage This pistol was in perfect working order. Here I am about to pop a cap in somebody's arse. (Note, I am holding the pistol sideways as is required when "popping a cap" in somebody's arse. East Coast Style.) (As similar thing happened in California. Guit's wife shot this thug deader than 4 O'clock with an air pistol right after this photo was taken. West Coast Style.) Hey Bird, you hijacked this thread. Start a new one about old shotguns and I will toss in an interesting story about my Dad's guns. Regarding the headstock finish question, I have also noticed somewhat of an orange peelish look on the black lacquer that is on the Heritage headstocks. I wouldn't dare use the word cheap to describe the headstock finish, but it doesn't seem to rival the impeccable finish that adorns the rest of the guitar, with the exception of the 555, 575 and the Eagles!
DetroitBlues Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 I have an '85 H-140 with an inlaid MOP Heritage logo. It has an almost milkly looking discolor to it and I cannot get it out. Its very deep in the finish and will probably stay that way forever....
Gitfiddler Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 Ha,ha, haa!!! My wife JUST walked into the room as I pulled up this thread!! She saw the picture of the 'Gangsta Bird' and cracked up! Our back yard is nesting ground zero for those nasty critters every year this time. Back on topic...be very careful NOT to rub the black painted finish OR the stencil Heritage logo. Bad things are going to happen to it as pointed out in the milky looking headstock photos. Finally, if you ever get a chance to custom order a Heritage, I'd recommend the Pearl inlayed logo. Even with that, do not rub the black surface or apply any cleaner to it.
FredZepp Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 Mine are fine.. here are the 1989 and the 2000 model headstocks. I'd bet someone with experience in old Nitro could improve that '85 headstock, DB...
zguitar71 Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 There is a bit of overspray on the side of the head stock of my 150 and there was on the sides of my Super Eagle too. On the SE and the 150 I feel tht it is O.K. due to the huge price difference between Heritage and the other makers out there. For me the importanat part is the structure of the guitar and the tone and both guitars were and are great in those departments. I have said in the past and will again, I would pay more for a Heritage to get one that is as perfect as some of the other brands out there, but the 150 is $1500-$2000 less and the SE is $4000+ less than the compitition so a little cosmetic ugle here and there is O.K.
DetroitBlues Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 So how do I fix my problem with the milky haze? Any ideas?
Spectrum13 Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 ??? remove the tuners and use a high speed buffer and some cleaner/ polish? Why do they call them pegheads and not tunaheads... I'm just saying.
banjomania Posted May 29, 2011 Author Posted May 29, 2011 So they are paint and not ebony? There's the problem. Put a piece of ebony on and Polish it and lacquer it with " the heritage" in abalone, and stand back and be amazed.
FredZepp Posted May 29, 2011 Posted May 29, 2011 So how do I fix my problem with the milky haze? Any ideas? It is difficult to recommend something, as I haven't dealt with this issue myself. I've read that lighter fluid (naptha) is good for cleaning or plain white vinegar , but again haven't used them. You wipe off with a dry cloth immediately and use a polish without silicon. I'd hate to recommend that you experiment with something and it not work right...
banjomania Posted May 29, 2011 Author Posted May 29, 2011 some headstocks look pretty good. the milky one looks faded and is exactly what i'm talking about. mine are just a little faded looking. i have a luthier who builds guitars near me and he can cut down the thickness of the peghead, apply a thin veneer of ebony up to where it was before, and redo the inlay and relacquer it. it will look Awesome!!! if i really loved my guitar, thats how i would fix it. it will never fade, never crack, in 30 years it will look like the day it was done if you take care of it. of course we have to be careful putting on strings and stuff cause over the years you can scratch the hell out of it. can you tell i hate paint? oh, and no orange peel.
Trouble Posted May 30, 2011 Posted May 30, 2011 You know, I came into this one thinking this was another one of those threads. haha. Pleasant surprise. Me too, dodged a bullet on that one. Ok that was cheesy what with the guns an all.
DetroitBlues Posted May 30, 2011 Posted May 30, 2011 ??? remove the tuners and use a high speed buffer and some cleaner/ polish? Why do they call them pegheads and not tunaheads... I'm just saying. Orginally, they were just pegs... No gears....
banjomania Posted May 31, 2011 Author Posted May 31, 2011 you know, if naptha like you get at home depot doesnt work, i wonder about a polymer auto polish like new finish 2000 or that kind of thing. i redid a telecaster with clear nitro once and it turned milky from too much moisture for months. but it eventually cleared.
DetroitBlues Posted June 4, 2011 Posted June 4, 2011 So here's something I never heard of to fix the haze.... It was mentioned that polish was really the only way to fix it, but if its a mositure problem, blush remover will remelt the laquer and allow the mositure to escape...
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