Kuz Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 . . . the elongated neck tenon is also standard on the 530, 535 and 555 model guitars. It goes all the way into the neck pup cavity . . just like Gibson. Marv will NOT however, put it on a guitar designated with soap bar P90s. He said he doesn't like that you can see it . . . because the soap bar P90s don't have a mounting ring to hide it. He will and does put it on guitars designated with dog ear P90s . . . because the pup housing hides it.
FredZepp Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 The next big thing will be making all solidbodies a neck through construction... Ok , maybe not.
donnie Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 Well I'm not certifying veracity, but my "birdie" just got through telling me it's been on all their H150's for more than a year now, but not on the hollow/semi-hollowbdies. I can't imagine them not touting it as competitive advantage for themselves (real or imaginary) but there you go!
smurph1 Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 Well I'm not certifying veracity, but my "birdie" just got through telling me it's been on all their H150's for more than a year now, but not on the hollow/semi-hollowbdies. I can't imagine them not touting it as competitive advantage for themselves (real or imaginary) but there you go! Hmmm..Velly Intelesting..
Kuz Posted May 27, 2011 Author Posted May 27, 2011 Well I'm not certifying veracity, but my "birdie" just got through telling me it's been on all their H150's for more than a year now, but not on the hollow/semi-hollowbdies. I can't imagine them not touting it as competitive advantage for themselves (real or imaginary) but there you go! I highly doubt that considering the first "long neck tenon" 150s just got made. I will check in and see if you are right. I am not trying to one-up anyone, or show how much I am in the know... again, I could careless. But I know others do care and this is the reason why I am posting.
donnie Posted May 28, 2011 Posted May 28, 2011 I highly doubt that considering the first "long neck tenon" 150s just got made. I will check in and see if you are right. I am not trying to one-up anyone, or show how much I am in the know... again, I could careless. But I know others do care and this is the reason why I am posting. I'd love to hear what you find. I was only parroting what I had just been told by a respected Heritage retail rep.
Kuz Posted May 28, 2011 Author Posted May 28, 2011 I'd love to hear what you find. I was only parroting what I had just been told by a respected Heritage retail rep. We might be talking about the same guy. If so, he called me yesterday to say they just finished the first run of Long Neck Tenon 150s and started some semis. I just e-mailed him, so we will know in a day or two.
the jayce Posted May 28, 2011 Posted May 28, 2011 I think jimmy page,peter green, billy gibbons, slash, ect, ect are what made those les pauls sound so good not the glued long tennons. Call me crazy I guess !!! How people can get so wrapped up in a marketing hipe is just beyond sickening.... Hey I heard a snail shell guitar pick is what gave srv his tone!!!!!!! I got some for sale if anyones inrested!!!! hint hint!
donnie Posted May 28, 2011 Posted May 28, 2011 I think jimmy page,peter green, billy gibbons, slash, ect, ect are what made those les pauls sound so good not the glued long tennons. Call me crazy I guess !!! How people can get so wrapped up in a marketing hipe is just beyond sickening.... Hey I heard a snail shell guitar pick is what gave srv his tone!!!!!!! I got some for sale if anyones inrested!!!! hint hint! You might be missing the point or at least my point anyway. I don't think there's a whit's difference in tone. It's bragging rights, having the newest and greatest, and most importantly, resale value should you be so inclined.
the jayce Posted May 28, 2011 Posted May 28, 2011 You might be missing the point or at least my point anyway. I don't think there's a whit's difference in tone. It's bragging rights, having the newest and greatest, and most importantly, resale value should you be so inclined. I see what your sayin, and I can respect that. But most folks that jump on these are going to be sold on the notion that these tennons are what made the 59's ect so special and infact it was the musician's that happened to like that particular sunset burst that gave them those unbelievable sounds and riffs. Those same guys can make a 2011 micro short tennon lespaul sound the same as they do thier antiques.... Thats all im saying..
Kuz Posted May 28, 2011 Author Posted May 28, 2011 I'd love to hear what you find. I was only parroting what I had just been told by a respected Heritage retail rep. OK, here is the word. Discussions over Heritage's version of the Long Neck Tenon occurred right at the time of PSP3 (Early August). No further thought occurred over it, because Heritage never said anything about making it official. The best guess is that they have been building the Long Neck Tenons as standard issue for the last couple of months (according to the "Birdie"). It is not a copy of Gibson's Long Tenon which is only used in their Cust Shop stuff (the other Gibbies use short Tenons). So bottom line, in typical Heritage fashion with no fanfare or announcement, best guess is the long Tenons have been in place for a few months (but theoretically they could have started some as early as last August). Thanks Donnie for the info which lead to better clarification (if clarification is possible at Heritage!!) Man, I LOVE Heritage... no fanfare... think they found another way that could be better and they just do it!!!
High Flying Bird Posted May 28, 2011 Posted May 28, 2011 You know, this is something that is being celebrated by people other than those of us at this web site - at best. If so many of us don't give a damn here why was it made into such a big issue? I think this "lil' birdie" should post on this topic and let us know exactly why it is such a big deal. Why is everything so hush, hush, Kuz? If this is a company secret why did you leak it? If it isn't a company secret why don't you let us know where you got this news from?
212Mavguy Posted May 28, 2011 Posted May 28, 2011 Dammit Janet!!! Soooooooooo glad to own my four, few, precious, Heritage guitars, and I love them the way they came, one at a time, my secondhand mail order brides, all of 'em...sing so sweetly, thank you Parsons Street men and the girl for what left your loving hands...for what they remain as... being... the way they "are" plugged in, the way they look, the way they are built, the way they are finished. I remember a few years ago when I bought my first Heritage, a 555 Antique Natural, (my camera's busted)...remembering that the seller described it as having a long neck tenon, like four years ago I think. BFD. Screw the tenons talk, build finger calluses instead. Peace, Rhythm, Tone.
Kuz Posted May 28, 2011 Author Posted May 28, 2011 You know, this is something that is being celebrated by people other than those of us at this web site - at best. If so many of us don't give a damn here why was it made into such a big issue? I think this "lil' birdie" should post on this topic and let us know exactly why it is such a big deal. Why is everything so hush, hush, Kuz? If this is a company secret why did you leak it? If it isn't a company secret why don't you let us know where you got this news from? Not a company secret at all, quite the contrary. I was asked if HOC members would like to know about a new feature of Heritage guitars and I said "yes" of course. I was then asked if I would like to post it here. I feel some my really like the new feature, others may careless. I am in the later, but I am always interested in what is going on at Parson's St.
bolero Posted May 28, 2011 Posted May 28, 2011 wow that's cool, and makes sense to cater to a large population of guitarists who think that's a big deal myself I could care less about the tenon: I think improving ones musical ability has a more tangible difference on how you sound good for Heritage though
SouthpawGuy Posted May 28, 2011 Posted May 28, 2011 What's a tenon ? Do lefty guitars come with lefty tenons ?
tbonesullivan Posted May 29, 2011 Posted May 29, 2011 how far in do the tenons on the 535's normally go? I thought that on most of the doublecuts they'd already been using tenons that went into the pickup cavity. on the 535 there's only about an inch from the neck joint to the edge of the neck pickup.
Kuz Posted May 29, 2011 Author Posted May 29, 2011 I can't answer that. I never cared to check. Sorry for the poor answer. Again, I am just reporting what a Heritage Rep has told me, my "whatever length" Heritage tenons sound great, but some people really do care about this stuff. If you go to PSP4 you can ask (I am sure they will show you) or if you can't make it I can ask in your behalf.
mark555 Posted May 29, 2011 Posted May 29, 2011 I see what your sayin, and I can respect that. But most folks that jump on these are going to be sold on the notion that these tennons are what made the 59's ect so special and infact it was the musician's that happened to like that particular sunset burst that gave them those unbelievable sounds and riffs. Those same guys can make a 2011 micro short tennon lespaul sound the same as they do thier antiques.... Thats all im saying.. I agree. Jimmy Page can play my Tokai, I will play his 59, and he is still going to make me look rubbish.
mark555 Posted May 29, 2011 Posted May 29, 2011 What's a tenon ? Do lefty guitars come with lefty tenons ? I think it's a saw, or maybe something to do with broadband. Broadband comes in sunburst now......
tsp17 Posted May 30, 2011 Posted May 30, 2011 looking forward to the answer as my 150 is being finished now. not that it matters much, just nice to know.
Kuz Posted May 30, 2011 Author Posted May 30, 2011 looking forward to the answer as my 150 is being finished now. not that it matters much, just nice to know. Well, with the latest info being stated from the rep that they HAVE been making long neck tenons for a couple months now, I would say the chances are very likely it WILL have a long neck tenon.
tsp17 Posted May 30, 2011 Posted May 30, 2011 Yeah, i saw that but wasn't there some conflicting info? Maybe I misunderstood. I hope everyone is having a nice holiday. Let's all play at least one tune today in memory of, and thanks to, our fallen protectors of freedom and heroes.
pro-fusion Posted June 1, 2011 Posted June 1, 2011 Every time I hit a wrong note, I think, "that damned short neck tenon did it again!"
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