caucajun Posted July 16, 2011 Posted July 16, 2011 howdy! i just got my first heritage. it's a bolt on strat copy w/ 1 SD hummer, a stop tailpiece and T.O.M. bridge, string lock, 6 in line grovers, quilt top & back w/ ash in between. well used w/ a bit of a crack in the fretboard. by the serial # decoder, it appears to be an "86. i don't have pix capabilities right now, but will submit soon. by the description, can anyone tell me what the model is of my strat copy? thanks, chuck
DetroitBlues Posted July 16, 2011 Posted July 16, 2011 howdy! i just got my first heritage. it's a bolt on strat copy w/ 1 SD hummer, a stop tailpiece and T.O.M. bridge, string lock, 6 in line grovers, quilt top & back w/ ash in between. well used w/ a bit of a crack in the fretboard. by the serial # decoder, it appears to be an "86. i don't have pix capabilities right now, but will submit soon. by the description, can anyone tell me what the model is of my strat copy? thanks, chuck Chuck, post some pics. I haven't heard of any bolt on Heritages. But I'm no expert.
caucajun Posted July 16, 2011 Author Posted July 16, 2011 here's pix. i think the body is ALL maple. no ash. chuck
DetroitBlues Posted July 16, 2011 Posted July 16, 2011 try looking under the control plate in the back +1! There are labels inside control plate covers that give a description of the guitar. That should be a start.
caucajun Posted July 16, 2011 Author Posted July 16, 2011 try looking under the control plate in the back nothing there. not even the remnants of an old sticker. (not in the cav NOR the backside of the plate.) C!
FredZepp Posted July 16, 2011 Posted July 16, 2011 That one is interesting.. some of the features seem like a custom build to me. The flamed neck, the veneered front and back..... It's kind of a VIP 1 with stop tail and some other details changed. Maybe someone can find this in an old catalog or something..
tbonesullivan Posted July 16, 2011 Posted July 16, 2011 wow. C serial number mean way early. Flamed maple neck is awesome. I wonder if the kahler string lock is original. definitely looks to be a great guitar, and an awesome piece of history. Looks to have been made right around the middle of 1986. Back then Heritage was making some strange things, compared to what they make today. They also did make a wide variety of bolt ons. Brent used to have one, and there were a lot of others made back then. Like, the H-162, or the VIP. it actually looks a bit like this one: http://www.heritageownersclub.com/forums/index.php?/gallery/album/139/77-vip2-88/ after reading the above post, I'd say some kind of custom VIP 1. It's got a fixed bridge with the fine tuners, the kahler lock nut, a flame maple neck, but otherwise it's a VIP 1. That body wood, it really does look to be ash with that grain pattern, though it could be some other hardwood.
SouthpawGuy Posted July 16, 2011 Posted July 16, 2011 Nice one ! My '86 VIP2 is an all maple body, 2 piece, with a mahogany set neck. This one also looks like an all maple body.
kbp810 Posted July 16, 2011 Posted July 16, 2011 Wow caucajun, that's quite the interesting find for your first Heritage; I would say you have done quite well Now get some strings on that old girl and show her that she's still loved
FredZepp Posted July 16, 2011 Posted July 16, 2011 quilt top & back w/ ash in between. BTW.. thanks for all of the pics, Chuck. I love the look of the top and the neck in particular. I bet this will play like a dream, even after all of the use it's had.
pushover Posted July 16, 2011 Posted July 16, 2011 That's a really interesting find. One of the nice things about Heritage guitars is that there are many unique specimens out there. I hope you enjoy your new acquisition. Just one suggestion though.. I often have the habit of point out the obvious, but I do guarantee that it will play and sound a whole lot better when you add 4 more strings. While it is possible to play leads and simple chords with only two strings, you'll be amazed at the number of extra options you'll have with more strings! Do enjoy.. And welcome to the club.
caucajun Posted July 16, 2011 Author Posted July 16, 2011 That's a really interesting find. One of the nice things about Heritage guitars is that there are many unique specimens out there. I hope you enjoy your new acquisition. Just one suggestion though.. I often have the habit of point out the obvious, but I do guarantee that it will play and sound a whole lot better when you add 4 more strings. While it is possible to play leads and simple chords with only two strings, you'll be amazed at the number of extra options you'll have with more strings! Do enjoy.. And welcome to the club. wellsir.......that was gonna be my 2nd querschun............"how many 2 string strats DID heritage produce?"
caucajun Posted July 20, 2011 Author Posted July 20, 2011 here's the top after cleaning and the head w/out the lock. also, one w/ it's new siblings; an "86 westone prestige 250 and an "83 ibanez RS1000. i just need a bottle of lemon oil and a new set o' strangs!
caucajun Posted July 22, 2011 Author Posted July 22, 2011 update: fretboard is greased, and a new set of 10's is on. i reversed the direction of the p'up ring, so's the p'up would sit level....i did an intonation, but still have some truss tweaks to do. it's a l'il stiff and twangy........but, "who among us'all ain't?" i'm not sure about the controls........the tone doesn't act like a typical tone control.......the switches do funny things depending on the combination.........anybody hip to the original wiring scheme?
mars_hall Posted July 22, 2011 Posted July 22, 2011 Not sure about the original wiring but with a single humbucker and 2 switches there are only 2-3 things you can do. One is coil-tap to a single, next is phase-invert the two coils, and finally put them in parallel. I'm betting on the first two being what's wired. Depending on the pickup, the use of the toggles will really show a difference in the output level, particularly if there is a phase inversion. Looks like there is a Duncan there and if it's a JB, you have possibilities. A high-wind pickup such as a JB will be less prone to peter-out in tapped or phase-inverted position, since there is still quite a bit of coil winding output being used when not in normal bucking mode. The phase-inverted position will sound quacky and a little thin due to cancellation. A tone pot on the phase-inverted will tend to behave/appear something like a volume control because there is not much low end left in the resulting signal. YMMV. If you know better, let's hear it. BTW, I don't know if you have push/pull switches in addition to the toggles, but assumed you didn't.
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