string through body

[the jayce]

just was curious if heritage ever did a string through body? I have a carvin like that and it seems to resonate alot more. maybe it's just me.... But was just wondering. If they never have i wonder why they stayed clear of that feature.

[tbonesullivan]

Who knows. The wraptail is supposed to be the end all of solid string body connection, so maybe they elected to just go with that. String through is common in the bolt on world. Teles and hard tail strats are often set up that way. Also, I think that many just prefer the look of the stop tail on "vintage" looking guitars like Heritages.

[Kuz]

Since most Heritage designs are based on former Gibson designs ( but not all Heritage guitars are, some are unique to Heritage) I would say very unlikely.

[Kuz]

And a quick, for what it's worth, My Heritages sustain as much or more than any other guitar manufactures I have own. But of course, your version may vary.

[the jayce]

And a quick, for what it's worth, My Heritages sustain as much or more than any other guitar manufactures I have own. But of course, your version may vary.

Yeah my heritage sustains great as well. Plus in the end a good sustian is in the pickups and overdrive. And for the most part once a guitar is plugged in its sound is at the mercy of whats driving it and amplifying it.

 

I dont hear any difference from my carvin and heritage when plugged in, only when playing the guitars unplugged do i notice the carvin being more resonate........which in the end doesnt mean crap! because what good is an electric guitar that isnt plugged in........... I was just mainly curious if heritage ever built a few that way. I dont think a string through is any better than any other form of set up.

[Kuz]

Yeah my heritage sustains great as well. Plus in the end a good sustian is in the pickups and overdrive. And for the most part once a guitar is plugged in its sound is at the mercy of whats driving it and amplifying it.

 

I dont hear any difference from my carvin and heritage when plugged in, only when playing the guitars unplugged do i notice the carvin being more resonate........which in the end doesnt mean crap! because what good is an electric guitar that isnt plugged in........... I was just mainly curious if heritage ever built a few that way. I dont think a string through is any better than any other form of set up.

 

Yea, we are pretty much in agreement except for one point. Terry McInturff who I often quote and knows more about the workings of a guitar than anyone, IMHO, told me to take your electric guitar into your bathroom and strum/play it. He said this is the tone & sustain that the microphones (Terry refers to pickups as microphones) will pickup. I like Terry's analogy of pickups to microphones because he has said there are a lot of great microphones (here he is speaking of real mics , like SM57, 421, e609) and everyone has there favorite. He continued that some singers will prefer a particular mic for their voice to be amplified with. But he concluded if the singer has a bad voice, then the mic will only help a small degree. Terry's point was if the guitar has a bad tone/sustain acoustically, the pickups are only going to help so much.

 

I have done the bathroom test with all my guitars, and while some Of my Heritages are slightly better than the others, a couple of the Heritages blow away all my other guitars from different companies.

 

Cool thread, thanks for starting it.

 

[the jayce]

Yea, we are pretty much in agreement except for one point. Terry McInturff who I often quote and knows more about the workings of a guitar than anyone, IMHO, told me to take your electric guitar into your bathroom and strum/play it. He said this is the tone & sustain that the microphones (Terry refers to pickups as microphones) will pickup. I like Terry's analogy of pickups to microphones because he has said there are a lot of great microphones (here he is speaking of real mics , like SM57, 421, e609) and everyone has there favorite. He continued that some singers will prefer a particular mic for their voice to be amplified with. But he concluded if the singer has a bad voice, then the mic will only help a small degree. Terry's point was if the guitar has a bad tone/sustain acoustically, the pickups are only going to help so much.

 

I have done the bathroom test with all my guitars, and while some Of my Heritages are slightly better than the others, a couple of the Heritages blow away all my other guitars from different companies.

 

Cool thread, thanks for starting it.

No problem! I love good discussions on all guitar topics. You bring up a good point on the acoustics,,,, I have some what dabbled a little bit in this theory as well and what i had found personally and this is just my opinion of the findings was that when i tried out 4 totally different guitars of all qualities a cheap squire, decent epiphone, a les paul standad, and gibson es-137 semi hollow. what i noticed is at one setting of the amps and pedals they all sounded pretty close,,,even the semi hollow and with a little tweaking of the amp or pedal i was pretty much able to make them all sound pretty much the same. Thats whe i came to the conclusion personally that 98% of sustain and tone was in the set up plugged to the guitar and the pickups in the guitars, not really in the wood or the body style hollow or semi hollow.

Done this about 15 years ago with some friends when we had a ton of different equipment back in those days. Boy the good ole days....

[the jayce]

I retract one of the guitars in my last post ! it was a es-335 gibson not a es-137. just wanted to be accurate in the comparisons we used when we did the immulation test a we now call it. lol! But seriously i found that if you tweak an amp settings and the effects pedals setting you can virtually make any electric guitar sound the same as another totally different brand and make up... With the exception of a rickenbacher those are just chimey Know matter what you do.

[LK155]

.....Thats whe i came to the conclusion personally that 98% of sustain and tone was in the set up plugged to the guitar and the pickups in the guitars, not really in the wood or the body style hollow or semi hollow.

 

 

My experience is quite different.

I have a Mille H155 and an H535. Same pickups, strings, and bridge on both.

Amplified, the H535 has a much fuller, richer sound than the H155, and a great deal more sustain. So in my case at least, types of wood and construction style (chambered H155 vs. semi-hollow H535) do seem to make a difference.

They're both good, of course, but the H535 rapidly became my favorite.

[Guest HRB853370]

Terry McInturff who I often quote...

 

Nahh, not you!

[DetroitBlues]

Maybe Heritage didn't want to put too many unnecessary holes in the highly figured woods....

[the jayce]

 

My experience is quite different.

I have a Mille H155 and an H535. Same pickups, strings, and bridge on both.

Amplified, the H535 has a much fuller, richer sound than the H155, and a great deal more sustain. So in my case at least, types of wood and construction style (chambered H155 vs. semi-hollow H535) do seem to make a difference.

They're both good, of course, but the H535 rapidly became my favorite.

I agree fore the most part, but it's when a eq was brought in the mix that alot of highs and lows could be blended to achieve the matched sounds. Not saying thats how it always is just saying when we where experimenting on the whole sound replicating thing and litterally pulled it off. every since then i just could never be sold on the guitar alone being the foundation of the sound UNLESS---------> Strictly clean guitar ,cable ,amp , on clean channel with all dials at center , then you could tell some subtle differences.

Thats why i love acoustics so much because you literally sound as good as your guitar woods and quality of build and playing of course