DetroitBlues Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 According to this guy, all the technology in the world doesn't make up for a lack of talent... Sort of puts any modeling amp, guitar, or recording device in perspective. You can have the best stuff money can buy and sound like crap, or have the cheapest bargin bin stuff and sound great... http://www.guitarworld.com/session-guitar-technology-cant-help-you-sound-better-if-practice-what-you-really-need
Guest HRB853370 Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 According to this guy, all the technology in the world doesn't make up for a lack of talent... Sort of puts any modeling amp, guitar, or recording device in perspective. You can have the best stuff money can buy and sound like crap, or have the cheapest bargin bin stuff and sound great... http://www.guitarwor...you-really-need I totally agree. Great players need minimal FX to get their sound. Plus, the more FX you have, the easier it is to mask mistakes and lack of talent!
tulk1 Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 That's why I buy the best guitars and the fanciest efx. Got to cover it up somehow.
Guest HRB853370 Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 That's why I buy the best guitars and the fanciest efx. Got to cover it up somehow. Doesn't hurt to have a great band to play with either does it!
Bonefish Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 I totally agree. Great players need minimal FX to get their sound. Plus, the more FX you have, the easier it is to mask mistakes and lack of talent! Great players don't 'need' effects to sound great, but most leverage an array of effects to get their very specific tones.
smurph1 Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 I totally agree. Great players need minimal FX to get their sound. Plus, the more FX you have, the easier it is to mask mistakes and lack of talent! Me too..i know i keep saying this, but Jimmy Page recorded all his guitar parts for the first Zeppelin album using a Telecaster and a small Supro amp..
smurph1 Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 That's why I buy the best guitars and the fanciest efx. Got to cover it up somehow. LOL..Me too..
fxdx99 Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 I totally agree. Great players need minimal FX to get their sound. Plus, the more FX you have, the easier it is to mask mistakes and lack of talent! Huh? You talking to me?! (in my best de niro accent...)
koula901 Posted March 7, 2012 Posted March 7, 2012 According to this guy, all the technology in the world doesn't make up for a lack of talent... Sort of puts any modeling amp, guitar, or recording device in perspective. You can have the best stuff money can buy and sound like crap, or have the cheapest bargin bin stuff and sound great... http://www.guitarwor...you-really-need yes, grasshopper . . . . so . . . sell your 140, and all your lovely equipment. Get a cigar box and string it up - I'll bet you can get it cheap, and practice your heart out.
t0aj15 Posted March 7, 2012 Posted March 7, 2012 Yawn...............like this is new info. Don't blow off great equipment just because an actual knowledge of music is STILL a prerequisite to making it sound good.
barrymclark Posted March 7, 2012 Posted March 7, 2012 I agree with it. (I mean, look at my signature). I also agree that this isn't new. I will go further to say this is probably the most easily forgotten bit of information that musicians get. I will also say there is something to be said about the right equipment. Notice I didn't say good equipment. Now, I guess it could be pretty easy to say you will have less breakdowns with a JC120 or a Soldano than you might with a Bugera (I say this as they have an atrocious breakdown rate historically which is a shame due to how good they sound). That is where I might assign the term good or bad. Beyond that, is all taste, opinion and, worse, fanboy opinion. I can honestly say I have preferred the recorded Axe-Fx tones over the similar tones from the real amps they modeled. The difference is slight, but there. That is a perfect example. What I like about the Axe-Fx is how articulate it sounds. What I call articulate the next guy might call harsh. What you average tube fan calls warmth I often call mud but there are tube amps that just sound wonderful to my ears.
JeffB Posted March 7, 2012 Posted March 7, 2012 that artical is obviously the narrow view of an idiot and wrong.
DetroitBlues Posted March 7, 2012 Author Posted March 7, 2012 yes, grasshopper . . . . so . . . sell your 140, and all your lovely equipment. Get a cigar box and string it up - I'll bet you can get it cheap, and practice your heart out. I make my own cigar box guitars... And I still have my 140...They are perfect for old school delta blues.
schundog Posted March 7, 2012 Posted March 7, 2012 Edge has talent... But no fx. Are you kidding?! https://
Guest HRB853370 Posted March 7, 2012 Posted March 7, 2012 Are you kidding?! https:// Yes- I was. He is ridiculous.
DetroitBlues Posted March 7, 2012 Author Posted March 7, 2012 That's insane, but he creates a very unique style of music that is hard to duplicate.
barrymclark Posted March 7, 2012 Posted March 7, 2012 According to this guy, all the technology in the world doesn't make up for a lack of talent... Sort of puts any modeling amp, guitar, or recording device in perspective. You can have the best stuff money can buy and sound like crap, or have the cheapest bargin bin stuff and sound great... http://www.guitarwor...you-really-need All I can say about talent vs equipment that is brief is... all a really good guitar and amp will do for someone who lacks the talent will make that lack of talent sound worse... better. haha.
koula901 Posted March 7, 2012 Posted March 7, 2012 "That's insane, but he creates a very unique style of music that is hard to duplicate." That's why he's The Edge.
111518 Posted March 7, 2012 Posted March 7, 2012 I found the article refreshing, and unexpected, given that it was published in a magazine whose profits are generated by selling advertising for more and more gear. In my opinion, 95-98% of the "signal path" that influences the musicality and tone of what a guitarist plays is between ears-brain-fingers, and yet we, myself included, devote a wildly disproportionate amount of time to the 5% or less accounted for by gear. Why? I guess my opinion on that is too political for current board standards. Suffice to say that I love guitars and amps for their craftsmanship and distinctive design, and for their distinctive sounds and feels, but, I have no illusion that new gear is going to make me a better player or even fundamentally change my tone. That comes from talent, certainly, but perhaps more significantly, from work. (and a good thing for me, since I don't have much talent.) My two cents, of course.
111518 Posted March 7, 2012 Posted March 7, 2012 I found the article refreshing, and unexpected, given that it was published in a magazine whose profits are generated by selling advertising for more and more gear. In my opinion, 95-98% of the "signal path" that influences the musicality and tone of what a guitarist plays is between ears-brain-fingers, and yet we, myself included, devote a wildly disproportionate amount of time to the 5% or less accounted for by gear. Why? I guess my opinion on that is too political for current board standards. Suffice to say that I love guitars and amps for their craftsmanship and distinctive design, and for their distinctive sounds and feels, but, I have no illusion that new gear is going to make me a better player or even fundamentally change my tone. That comes from talent, certainly, but perhaps more significantly, from work. (and a good thing for me, since I don't have much talent.) My two cents, of course. In light of skydogs thread, I need to note one exception to the ramble above: guitars bought in auctions that benefit worthy humanitarian causes absolutely DO improve your playing --it's a karma thing, plugs directly into the 95% between ears/brain(heart) and fingers ...
yoslate Posted March 7, 2012 Posted March 7, 2012 In light of skydogs thread, I need to note one exception to the ramble above: guitars bought in auctions that benefit worthy humanitarian causes absolutely DO improve your playing --it's a karma thing, plugs directly into the 95% between ears/brain(heart) and fingers ... +10
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