LaVonne Posted March 15, 2012 Posted March 15, 2012 I ordered my H575 standard with Spruce top the end of June 2011. At some point the order had to be restarted because of some problem with the guitar. It's been 9 months and I'm still wiaiting. My dealer Jeff at J Hale Music has not been able to get a progress report from Heritage. I understand they are busy and this is not unusual. Has anyone else waited this long for an archtop? Just wondering.
Spectrum13 Posted March 15, 2012 Posted March 15, 2012 LaVonne, They had been waiting for some quality spruce. It arrived a couple of weeks ago. The moisture content was high so it went into the kiln for a while. I understand they are just starting to carve the tops last couple of days.
tulk1 Posted March 15, 2012 Posted March 15, 2012 LaVonne, They had been waiting for some quality spruce. It arrived a couple of weeks ago. The moisture content was high so it went into the kiln for a while. I understand they are just starting to carve the tops last couple of days. Cool that you knew that and could pass it on. They should have told Jeff that , too. JHale has been a long time supporter and dealer of Heritage guitars. Anyway, good to hear they're carving spruce tops, again.
DetroitBlues Posted March 15, 2012 Posted March 15, 2012 How would anyone even know about such things unless they were in the supply chain?
Spectrum13 Posted March 15, 2012 Posted March 15, 2012 How would anyone even know about such things unless they were in the supply chain? HOC members are not just anyone. Plus I spoke with Ren this morning.
LaVonne Posted March 15, 2012 Author Posted March 15, 2012 Thanks for the insight. I appreciate it. Jeff Hale is the best. I've one of Jeff's customers for several years and I've always 100 percent satisfied.
Hfan Posted March 15, 2012 Posted March 15, 2012 How would anyone even know about such things unless they were in the supply chain? I was speculating that Spectrum had his own order in progress..
tulk1 Posted March 15, 2012 Posted March 15, 2012 Interesting about the Spruce. Since Larrivee posted a vid a few days ago about finding a treasure trove of good Spruce. Hmmmmm. If nothing else, it's worth watching up to where they fell the tree.
DetroitBlues Posted March 15, 2012 Posted March 15, 2012 I might have treasure trove of a huge twisted maple in my backyard.. If it was ever felled, I'd expect it to have some extreme figuring to it.
tulk1 Posted March 15, 2012 Posted March 15, 2012 Twisted Maple? Is that a new designation? Heritage H150TM. That will def have people posting "what does the TM stand for on my 150?"
TalismanRich Posted March 15, 2012 Posted March 15, 2012 Twisted Maple? Is that a new designation? Heritage H150TM. That will def have people posting "what does the TM stand for on my 150?" I think there's already an H170TM in the group.
yoslate Posted March 15, 2012 Posted March 15, 2012 I think there's already an H170TM in the group. Despite appearances to the contrary, it's not the maple which is twisted, here....
big bob Posted March 16, 2012 Posted March 16, 2012 Rich and Slate, Your despicable. (said like daffy duck)
High Flying Bird Posted March 16, 2012 Posted March 16, 2012 Rich and Slate, Your despicable. (said like daffy duck) Maybe, but most accurate. Look out buddy I hear the bus coming......
High Flying Bird Posted March 16, 2012 Posted March 16, 2012 My dealer Jeff at J Hale Music has not been able to get a progress report from Heritage. I would call them next week and ask about the order. I have had dealers let me slip through the cracks before. I don't buy this, "I can't contact Heritage" excuse. If they can hear the phone they will answer it.
vejesse Posted March 16, 2012 Posted March 16, 2012 I call B.S. about "not being able to find quality spruce" . Decent grade European spruce for archtop guitars seems like it's always available and the retail price isn't bad - I picked up a German comercially produced archtop guitar top set with nice vertical grain for $40 retail last fall. I think it's more likely that they couldn't find spruce at the low price they were looking for after they ran out of wood. You might have to buy a top set and send it to them! Look at Metropoltian Music's web site if you want to get an idea of what quality wood costs at the retail level.
FredZepp Posted March 16, 2012 Posted March 16, 2012 I call B.S. about "not being able to find quality spruce" . Decent grade European spruce for archtop guitars seems like it's always available and the retail price isn't bad - I picked up a German comercially produced archtop guitar top set with nice vertical grain for $40 retail last fall. I think it's more likely that they couldn't find spruce at the low price they were looking for after they ran out of wood. You might have to buy a top set and send it to them! Look at Metropoltian Music's web site if you want to get an idea of what quality wood costs at the retail level. I can't say about the charge that it's BS and the company is not here to reply, but it sounds like the OP that ordered the guitar is ok with it.. that's what matters. LaVonne... I'm sure that when you have your H575 in your hands, you'll echo what we've heard many times before.... "it was worth the wait" ..
Steiner Posted March 16, 2012 Posted March 16, 2012 I might have treasure trove of a huge twisted maple in my backyard.. If it was ever felled, I'd expect it to have some extreme figuring to it. And I know just the right guys to lumber it! Oh, it IS worth the wait!
SouthpawGuy Posted March 16, 2012 Posted March 16, 2012 I call B.S. about "not being able to find quality spruce" . Decent grade European spruce for archtop guitars seems like it's always available and the retail price isn't bad - I picked up a German comercially produced archtop guitar top set with nice vertical grain for $40 retail last fall. I think it's more likely that they couldn't find spruce at the low price they were looking for after they ran out of wood. You might have to buy a top set and send it to them! Look at Metropoltian Music's web site if you want to get an idea of what quality wood costs at the retail level. Maybe they just want to stay with a supplier they know and trust ?
Hfan Posted March 16, 2012 Posted March 16, 2012 LaVonne, They had been waiting for some quality spruce. It arrived a couple of weeks ago. The moisture content was high so it went into the kiln for a while. I understand they are just starting to carve the tops last couple of days. I call B.S. about "not being able to find quality spruce" . Decent grade European spruce for archtop guitars seems like it's always available and the retail price isn't bad - I picked up a German comercially produced archtop guitar top set with nice vertical grain for $40 retail last fall. I think it's more likely that they couldn't find spruce at the low price they were looking for after they ran out of wood. You might have to buy a top set and send it to them! Look at Metropoltian Music's web site if you want to get an idea of what quality wood costs at the retail level. vejesse, you may be misquoting. Spectrum said they "where waiting for some quality spruce". They may have a specific supplier they use etc. From what I know the Heritage guys are straight shooters to say the least.
vejesse Posted March 17, 2012 Posted March 17, 2012 I have no information about where Heritage gets their wood from (but their maple does not look like commercial European wood to me). But here's my experience: You can invest in a larger amount of stock during good times (i.e. Martin Guitar) or you can operate with a lower inventory but go through several suppliers who will give you a better chance of having what you need. When trying to find something like ebony fingerboards for an upright bass for example, sometimes you don't have much choice. Does Heritage use one supplier for it's spruce? Do they buy machined wood or do they process the lumber themselves? I do know that the European maple supply is hit or miss but spruce seems to be consistently available in guitar/cello sizes or smaller. I don't begrudge Heritage trying to save some money on process and materials (although I do wish they would spend more time fitting their braces to the top). It's part of how they can offer an affordable guitar and affordable is good.
FredZepp Posted March 17, 2012 Posted March 17, 2012 I have no information about where Heritage gets their wood from (but their maple does not look like commercial European wood to me). But here's my experience: You can invest in a larger amount of stock during good times (i.e. Martin Guitar) or you can operate with a lower inventory but go through several suppliers who will give you a better chance of having what you need. When trying to find something like ebony fingerboards for an upright bass for example, sometimes you don't have much choice. Does Heritage use one supplier for it's spruce? Do they buy machined wood or do they process the lumber themselves? I do know that the European maple supply is hit or miss but spruce seems to be consistently available in guitar/cello sizes or smaller. I don't begrudge Heritage trying to save some money on process and materials (although I do wish they would spend more time fitting their braces to the top). It's part of how they can offer an affordable guitar and affordable is good. without any information it just becomes a guessing game... maybe this .. or maybe that.. or perhaps they just like to buy from someone they've know for a very long time.. just because. They can be like that sometimes. These guys have been doing this a very long time. And yes.. affordable is good. We can agree on that ..
brentrocks Posted March 17, 2012 Posted March 17, 2012 I have no information about where Heritage gets their wood from bingo!
Spectrum13 Posted March 17, 2012 Posted March 17, 2012 Ren said... "trees" Other than the clip in this thread by Larrivee I can't recall any manufacturer getting into much detail on their wood suppliers. In the case of Gibson, to some extent they do not WANT to know the source of their rosewood and ebony. Jim, JP, Bill and Marv have more collective experience purchasing tone woods to build guitars than anyone and the quality and value of their product says all I need to know.
SouthpawGuy Posted March 17, 2012 Posted March 17, 2012 Ren said... "trees" Ha ! Just sprayed my keyboard ....
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