MartyGrass Posted May 12, 2012 Posted May 12, 2012 Here's the quote: and finger tailpiece, which eliminates feedback by varying the pressure on individual strings. This is news to me. I did a Google search and could not confirm this. That doesn't make the statement false, just unexpected. And it makes no sense. Now I'm going to have to experiment with a couple of archtops. Sigh.
DavesNotHere Posted May 12, 2012 Posted May 12, 2012 Now I'm going to have to experiment with a couple of archtops. Sigh. There are worse ways to spend a Saturday morning.
111518 Posted May 12, 2012 Posted May 12, 2012 Yeah, I read that too, and wondered, "hmm, how could that possibly work?" Fortunately, the only guitar on which I have a finger tailpeice is a Howard Roberts, which has a block and doesn't feed back, so, no crisis of wondering if the cure to feedback had been on my guitar all along...
Spectrum13 Posted May 12, 2012 Posted May 12, 2012 Finger tailpiece. Kind of an oxymoron so to purpose can be misleading.
bolero Posted May 12, 2012 Posted May 12, 2012 yeah I'd be real careful typing that into google & looking for images
FredZepp Posted May 12, 2012 Posted May 12, 2012 It's true... when I play the Centurion through a Marshall stack, there's no feedback. Just heavy metal thunder....
Steiner Posted May 12, 2012 Posted May 12, 2012 It's true... when I play the Centurion through a Marshall stack, there's no feedback. Just heavy metal thunder.... The hammer of the gods?
Gitfiddler Posted May 12, 2012 Posted May 12, 2012 I disagree with the statement that it eliminates feedback. The six finger tailpiece helps to dampen or reduce feedback but it does not eliminate it. The same principle applies to George Benson's designed GB10 tailpiece. It's like a heavy duty frequensinator (sp), applying downward pressure on each string or groups of strings. I get very little feedback from my GB10, but tons of it from my six fingered 575 at similar volume levels and EQ settings.
iim7v7im7 Posted May 12, 2012 Posted May 12, 2012 I disagree with the statement that it eliminates feedback. The six finger tailpiece helps to dampen or reduce feedback but it does not eliminate it. The same principle applies to George Benson's designed GB10 tailpiece. It's like a heavy duty frequensinator (sp), applying downward pressure on each string or groups of strings. I get very little feedback from my GB10, but tons of it from my six fingered 575 at similar volume levels and EQ settings. You own both instruments so you can tell me.... Isn't a GB10 only 14-3/4" x 2-1/4" and has a thicker laminated top (e.g. the whole structure is more rigid and less likely to excite) vs. a H575 that is 16" x 2-3/4"? Do the differences really relate to the tail piece design and not the differences in instrument structure between them?
Gitfiddler Posted May 13, 2012 Posted May 13, 2012 You own both instruments so you can tell me.... Isn't a GB10 only 14-3/4" x 2-1/4" and has a thicker laminated top (e.g. the whole structure is more rigid and less likely to excite) vs. a H575 that is 16" x 2-3/4"? Do the differences really relate to the tail piece design and not the differences in instrument structure between them? Very true about the differences in the GB vs 575. My point was that the tailpiece functions in a similar manner, allowing for adjustable downforce or pressure on the top and tension on the strings. Feedback is further resisted by a multi-lam top made of sandwitched spruce/mahogany/spruce on the GB. It's not vibrating much at all, even though both pickups are floaters. The six finger improves the feedback resistance on the 575, which already is pretty good for most reasonable volume levels. As much as I love the GB's, they are pretty dead, tonally unless amplified. Then they really come alive.
Guest HRB853370 Posted May 13, 2012 Posted May 13, 2012 You own both instruments so you can tell me.... Isn't a GB10 only 14-3/4" x 2-1/4" and has a thicker laminated top (e.g. the whole structure is more rigid and less likely to excite) vs. a H575 that is 16" x 2-3/4"? Do the differences really relate to the tail piece design and not the differences in instrument structure between them? Thats hilarious. Body size has nothing to do with feedback. The construction of the instrument has everything to do with it.
Guest HRB853370 Posted May 13, 2012 Posted May 13, 2012 yeah I'd be real careful typing that into google & looking for images Bolero, I tried your suggestion and it was not pretty.
iim7v7im7 Posted May 13, 2012 Posted May 13, 2012 Thats hilarious. Body size has nothing to do with feedback. The construction of the instrument has everything to do with it. I guess we'll just disagree on this one. :-)
jazzrat Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 I seriously doubt the finger tailpiece has a benefit in fighting feedback. I worked at a store that was Gibson dealer....the only selling point for the finger tailpiece I was told about by the Gibson rep was the ability to adjust individual string tension.
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