yoslate Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 Rob, it's cool you have the time to get your hands dirty now! Retirement must suit you well. I find it quite odd you would introduce water into a crack. I would expect the water would make the wood expand. Enlarging the grain only in one spot. I would think this would make it harder to get the repair to lie flat. Learn something new every day, hope I never have a need to use this little gem. Cheers Lance, I'm just following Tom's mentoring. He's well-known around here for his headstock repairs...done a bunch of them, and they always turn out fabulously. I use a sponge, and I don't drown the break, but I do get it wet. And the idea is to expand the wood fiber just a bit, and get it wet enough to draw the glue into the fiber, rather than just introduce the glue to the opposing surfaces of the break. As to getting the break "to lie flat," that's all in the thorough jigging of the break, after gluing. I'm very, very lucky to hve the opportunity to learn this from someone very good at his craft. I'm having a ball!
brentrocks Posted June 29, 2012 Author Posted June 29, 2012 +1 on this. My 535 needs a thorough clean up as well, and if this is your standard process on all your guitars, I'd love to see how you do it. Nice job on the repair project! Thanks man! i just hope when i take the clamp off sunday morning and get her strung up that it holds....or else it will be off to Heritage for a new neck
brentrocks Posted June 29, 2012 Author Posted June 29, 2012 Brent, good thread... no one has mentioned it yet but that guitar has a very good looking top on it to boot... should be a looker after your efforts. thank you!! that was about 50% of my reasons for buying it in the first place...i figured if it could be saved, screw it, its worth a try....right?!
brentrocks Posted June 29, 2012 Author Posted June 29, 2012 But would I throw a lit match in the oven if my friends were in there? I know I'd take time to watch the video - as long as you don't wear a cape... what if im naked?
jmac Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 I saw a guy on you tube use a piece of clear packing tape to work the glue down in the crack/s after he covered it with glue. You should have a great guitar after the repair. congrats. Would love to see pictures of the buffing process. Are you going to restain the back? Looks like a great project..
brentrocks Posted June 29, 2012 Author Posted June 29, 2012 I saw a guy on you tube use a piece of clear packing tape to work the glue down in the crack/s after he covered it with glue. You should have a great guitar after the repair. congrats. Would love to see pictures of the buffing process. Are you going to restain the back? Looks like a great project.. I'm not going to do any kind of re-finishing on the back of the body or the headstock....if the headstock holds, it will be "beater" or "bastard child" if you will.... it will look good from the front and will burn the retinas out of your eyes when you flip it over
DetroitBlues Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 This might help in the repair of the tuner hole... http://www.stewmac.com/tsarchive/ts0167.html
TalismanRich Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 I think it would be worth it to try to fix the missing wood by the tuner, then maybe mask and respray the stinger only.
bolero Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 I've had good luck using the usual yellow wood glue, and prying the crack open a bit, carefully, using a clamp against the neck before gluing once I also shot this special cyano glue, ( forget what it's called...but was specially formulated to work on wood; got it from a buddy who raced model airplanes & built them out of balsa wood, using the stuff ) into the hairline cracks & it seeped/wicked right down there instantly, where I couldn't get the thicker glue that repair has held up for 5+ years & I even strung it with 13's for about a year to see if it would hold up
Genericmusic Posted June 30, 2012 Posted June 30, 2012 I use a sponge, and I don't drown the break, but I do get it wet. And the idea is to expand the wood fiber just a bit, and get it wet enough to draw the glue into the fiber, rather than just introduce the glue to the opposing surfaces of the break. As to getting the break "to lie flat," that's all in the thorough jigging of the break, after gluing. My father taught me to repair gun stocks in the same fashion.
Steiner Posted June 30, 2012 Posted June 30, 2012 what if im naked? Kinky... Watch where you get the glue.
FredZepp Posted June 30, 2012 Posted June 30, 2012 Yeah... a great " how to" video there , Brent. You've created a technique that allows you to quickly revitalize a guitar finish.. and fretboard. Cool stuff to see in action... Don't forget me if you end up selling this one...
bolero Posted June 30, 2012 Posted June 30, 2012 hey that was great thx Brent!! "GRUNGE" I think, is the word @10min :D
brentrocks Posted June 30, 2012 Author Posted June 30, 2012 Spectacular!!! Were you wearing pants? Thank you! i was wearing pants
brentrocks Posted June 30, 2012 Author Posted June 30, 2012 Well, its done! I was going to wait until tomorrow night to take off the clamp, but several people told me that 24 hours was more than enough time for that Tightbond to set. So...i got the easy part done first, electronics......installed a set of Duncan Alnico II Pro Slash. A new set of locking Grovers. Then a set of Tone Pros locking bridge and tailpiece...filed the groves in the saddles, set intonation....i was waiting for that sound, but all is well for now. The only problem i had was when i has full tention on the strings, there was way too much relief in the neck....so i tightened the truss rod to the point that i felt safe....it is really tight....i would like to go another 1/2 turn, but i dont want to break it! I was still able to get the action pretty low with only minimal buzz. Hopefully i wont go down to find it POPed in the morning.
schundog Posted June 30, 2012 Posted June 30, 2012 Well Done! Holy Schnikes, what a top! Can't wait to see it in person, man.
DetroitBlues Posted June 30, 2012 Posted June 30, 2012 Spectacular!!! Were you wearing pants? Thank you! There are some visuals I just don't want to think about...
Steiner Posted June 30, 2012 Posted June 30, 2012 i was wearing pants There were times while watching that I swear you were wearing a cape. It had a big S in the center; or was that an H?...
brentrocks Posted June 30, 2012 Author Posted June 30, 2012 I just went down to the guitar room and it is still intact!!! AND IN TUNE!!!! i guess i did it right...it should have poped by now with full tention for over 12 hours!!!! i'm very prowd of myself....this was a big step for me
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