Please critique this finish. Is it right?

[MartyGrass]

This antique cherry burst has a transitional pink margin off of the center. I haven't seen this before. What happened?

 

[hotfordcoupe]

If you didn't mention it, I would never have known it was there. Looks like a great instrument.

[FredZepp]

These are photos with flash? .. that may contribute to this effect in the photos.

[nicknickhall]

I've gotten widely varying results from flash photos. The rug in the background has pink in it too. Hard to comment on photos except that yours are usually excellent.

[DetroitBlues]

Maybe it was a custom order by Kuz and he decided there wasn't enough pink in it... Worse case, you can always get it refinished!

[MartyGrass]

These were done with a flash. I didn't take these pictures.

 

These pictures were taken on the same camera under the same conditions that my new chestnut burst photos had. Those photos were representative of the "in person" experience. So it is likely that this cherry burst really has a layer of pink in it. Therefore it must be disqualified from being a genuine clownburst.

[Gitfiddler]

The pink-ish hue might be the result of color bleed transition between the natural and chestnut colors when sprayed at the factory.

 

I like it.

[Guest HRB853370]

I like it, but somehow those black speed knobs are just wrong on that guitar! I like the amber top hat knobs that came on my 150 clownburst.

[Genericmusic]

I have seen this in 70's era LP's. My brother has a 70's era clownburst. I just so happen to be visiting him and pulled his out of the case. Same effect. I don't think it's any big deal. Unless of cousre you don't like it. I do agree with Slammer about the amber knobs though.

[MartyGrass]

It looks like a strange triburst. I kinda like it actually. The "salmon" ain't so bad.

 

Here's some conventional finishes to compare with.

 

[skydog52]

I knew I saw pink (salmon) in there. I like it.

[MartyGrass]

Current cherry burst on eBay. Notice the near absence of pink. How ordinary!

 

 

[tbonesullivan]

I have seen other Heritage ACB finishes looking like that. I have also seen some VSB finishes that had more of a pink/reddish ting to the edge. It may depend on who was spraying at that time, or who mixed the pigment, or even the dye lot.

 

Also, the TRUE clownbursts I have seen have a cherry that is almost magenta in color.

[MartyGrass]

In my book, a clownburst has a distinct margin between yellow and deep red or magenta I suppose.

 

I have had a few VSBs and know what you mean.

 

Here's one that has no red in it. The only reason I'm posting it is that it has other redeeming values in the top.

 

 

[Gitfiddler]

Our friends over at Wolfe Guitars have a Cherry Burst that shows NO hint of pink in its transition.

 

[Kuz]

Over time the Nitro cures and reacts with the color finish. This is quite common and can be seen on many nitro finished guitars. Red, Blue, and Green finishes are most susceptible to fading from the nitro.

[brentrocks]

i would guess UV exposure

[TalismanRich]

It looks to me that the yellow stain in the middle did not get sprayed all the way to the edge. The edges have a distinct bluish tint, even in the heavy areas. That would be the effect if the maple wasn't completely covered.

 

I see that type of effect in 4 color process printing all the time. Magenta + yellow = red. Pale magenta is pink.

[Hfan]

That finish is unacceptable, send it to me immediately before it corrupts the rest of your collection. Actually I like it much more than some of the other Gibson examples.

[MartyGrass]

That finish is unacceptable, send it to me immediately before it corrupts the rest of your collection. Actually I like it much more than some of the other Gibson examples.

 

This isn't mine. I'm on the fence.

 

I believe this left the factory this way. It's not very old and has never left the shop.

[bolero]

I agree with Rich....when they spray the yellow coat on a sunburst, does it normally go to the edge of the guitar? or does it fade out, in the area where the red takes over?

 

if so it may not have been sprayed yellow far enough out, and the light fade-in area of red is transparent over the natural wood finish....leaving a pink transition area

 

either way i think it looks fine!!

 

...you may have to borrow Guy's tutu, to match though, if you buy it

[gary0313]

I'm no expert on finishing guitars, but the pink hue bears a strong resemblance to a pink H-535 That Wolfe Guitars had for sale last year. Might be the way the color was mixed or the sprayer's technique. Looks unique.

[yoslate]

Who mixed it, who shot it, temperature and humidity when it was finished, UV exposure, the wood underneath.... Heritage finishes are among the best in the business, each one unique, like a fingerprint. There is no "right."

[Tallershadows]

MG,

 

Considering another purchase?! You are on fire. The millenium eagle, H157, and now this. You are putting the rest of us to shame...

 

In any case, all I can is that I like the finish. I usually am not a fan of cherry burst because it is too bright for my taste, but this one is slightly subdued ( I guess that is the "antique" aspect).

[MartyGrass]

It looks to me that the yellow stain in the middle did not get sprayed all the way to the edge. The edges have a distinct bluish tint, even in the heavy areas. That would be the effect if the maple wasn't completely covered.

 

I see that type of effect in 4 color process printing all the time. Magenta + yellow = red. Pale magenta is pink.

 

 

I put this theory to a Heritage person. Here's the response.

 

 

 

Your scenario is pretty much impossible. They spray the base coat . . in this case the amber . . latitudinally left to right, then right to left in over lapping patterns. They actually hit the spray button on the spray gun even before it's aimed at the guitar, so the lacquer is coming out of the gun an inch or two before it gets over the guitar . . and they don't release the button until the stroke takes the spray off of the guitar a couple of inches. They do this specifically to avoid what you are thinking might have happened.

 

In this guitar's case, I can't even offer a guess at what might have happened. It almost looks like it's an intentional 3 tone burst.