steve1991 Posted September 29, 2012 Posted September 29, 2012 Hey folks, This is my first post and I just joined up to get your advice on a heritage. It seems similar to a H150 but with a few differences -Ebony Fretboard -Tummy cut on the back -Nickel hardware -2 screw adjuster on pickup rings I have been offered it for £650, its a bit battered but it plays real nice and the laquer checking and aging on the hardware suggest its quite old. Any help would be appreciated, i will get pictures up as soon as i go see the guitar again.
DetroitBlues Posted September 29, 2012 Posted September 29, 2012 There are many customized Heritages out there. That sounds like a great deal to me. Take it! Other than the pickups probably being replaced, which also isn't uncommon, the ebony and tummy cut are nice features. I had a 140 that had a tummy cut, mini block inlays, and ebony fretboard. But it was a 140.
pegleg32 Posted September 29, 2012 Posted September 29, 2012 Take off the plate that covers the control cavity. Your info can be found there.
mars_hall Posted September 29, 2012 Posted September 29, 2012 Need pics for an accurate assessment and then it should be by one of the members in the UK... Money is different and they know the market there better. The belly cut sounds like a limited edition, in which case the number on the back of the headstock usually has an "of" in it, as it 3 of 25. Could also be a 150 DLX which have a veneer on the headstock face.
H Posted September 30, 2012 Posted September 30, 2012 Need pics for an accurate assessment and then it should be by one of the members in the UK... Money is different and they know the market there better. UK member reporting for duty £650 for a 150 with an ebony board sounds like very good value. I'd ensure that the neck is sound and the frets are good if it's a little beaten up as you say. If you can, get the serial number: that will reveal the year of manufacture. As others have requested, pics of the guitar will help a lot. In particular the cutaway, the rear of the neck by the headstock, the inside of the control cavity and the sticker on the inside of the control cavity cover. 150s with good tops and in very good shape can make around £1100. Used with some marks I'd expect a price nearer £950. Good luck!
bobmeyrick Posted September 30, 2012 Posted September 30, 2012 Another UK member here! £650 sounds like very good value indeed, even if you factored in some extra cash for fixing minor problems.
steve1991 Posted October 2, 2012 Author Posted October 2, 2012 Rightio folks, picked up the guitar today on a trial run. Under the control plate is H150 ultra, VSB, HRW It still seems to have some discrepancies compared to the ultras iv seen online, such as the diamond headstock inlay and ebony fretboard. Its a 2002 model, its had a bit of a rough history namely it was thrown out of the window by an angry wife, hence it has some battle scars specifically a rather big dint in the headstock but luckily no breaks, the finish is all checked too.
AP515 Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 I am amazed that headstock did not break. Some break just by falling off a stand. This one went out the window! Looks like you got a good one.
SouthpawGuy Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 Out the window with no breaks, that's one tough 150 ! It looks like a 150 Deluxe to me at that price I'd grab it quick.
kidsmoke Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 Out the window with no breaks, that's one tough 150 ! It looks like a 150 Deluxe to me at that price I'd grab it quick. +1 that guitar refuses to go away quietly. What a top!!!
steve1991 Posted October 2, 2012 Author Posted October 2, 2012 Out the window with no breaks, that's one tough 150 ! It looks like a 150 Deluxe to me at that price I'd grab it quick. I am amazed that headstock did not break. Some break just by falling off a stand. This one went out the window! Looks like you got a good one. Im guessing it landed on grass, there are a few dints on the back as well as the headstock but the rest of the guitar is in imaculate condition apart from general aging. SouthpawGuy iv looked at pictures of both ultras and deluxes online and it doesnt match either, under the control plate it states it as an h150 ultra. Im thinking maybe its a custom job model as i cant find any other h150 ultras with the 157 headstock and ebony fretboard.
SouthpawGuy Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 Im guessing it landed on grass, there are a few dints on the back as well as the headstock but the rest of the guitar is in imaculate condition apart from general aging. SouthpawGuy iv looked at pictures of both ultras and deluxes online and it doesnt match either, under the control plate it states it as an h150 ultra. Im thinking maybe its a custom job model as i cant find any other h150 ultras with the 157 headstock and ebony fretboard. There have been instances of guitars that usually come with gold hardware being ordered with chrome / nickel. As Heritage is basically a custom shop then it's perfectly possible it was ordered that way.
gpuma Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 It's not just good looking, it's pure Heritage porn!
steve1991 Posted October 2, 2012 Author Posted October 2, 2012 Im really enjoying the HRW pickups, i play 90% with my fingers and i get a great bright percussive sound out of them. The guy i bought them from mentioned they had randal or something similar on the bottom of them, does this mean anything?
SouthpawGuy Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 HRW = Heritage Ren Wall. http://www.heritageownersclub.com/forums/topic/19038-rens-new-guitar-his-wall-hanger-and-a-funny-story/
kidsmoke Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 Ren Wall Heritage - Ren Wall HRW One of the old guard at Heritage who personally handwound the pickups
steve1991 Posted October 2, 2012 Author Posted October 2, 2012 HRW = Heritage Ren Wall. http://www.heritageo...-a-funny-story/ Ah so im guessing he makes them then Im guessing also they are heritage exclusive as I havent heard of him or his pickups before.
H Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 Ren Wall Heritage - Ren Wall HRW One of the old guard at Heritage who personally handwound the pickups They have his name but he didn't hand wind them, kidsmoke. According to previous conversations here about the change(s) made to the Schaller Golden 50 pickup they're based on, it's a magnet upgrade that makes it an HRW. Steve, I would be all over that like a cheap suit for £650. Where are you in the UK?
Millennium Maestro Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 Under the control plate is H150 ultra, VSB, HRW It still seems to have some discrepancies compared to the ultras iv seen online, such as the diamond headstock inlay and ebony fretboard. The dotted toggle would signify HRW pickups , which also factory installed have 4 adjustment screws... CorrectHeritage does custom builds alot of the time which would not arise any concerns with the Ebony board, Inlayed and bound headstock and also the belly cut..... THAT IS A SCORE AND A BEAUTY!
steve1991 Posted October 2, 2012 Author Posted October 2, 2012 They have his name but he didn't hand wind them, kidsmoke. According to previous conversations here about the change(s) made to the Schaller Golden 50 pickup they're based on, it's a magnet upgrade that makes it an HRW. Steve, I would be all over that like a cheap suit for £650. Where are you in the UK? Im in Newcastle mate, Never really tried Schaller pickups but if they are as good as their hardware then im sure they are great. These ones are quite punchy and bright, sound great with my fingers but are a little harsh on the bridge with a pick.
H Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 Im in Newcastle mate, Never really tried Schaller pickups but if they are as good as their hardware then im sure they are great. These ones are quite punchy and bright, sound great with my fingers but are a little harsh on the bridge with a pick. I'm near Colchester but originally from Liverpool Quite a few UK members here I think. The Schaller Golden 50s are nice, low output PAF style pickups. HRWs are known for a detailed, articulate and singing neck pickup. Quite a few members here, myself included, find the bridge needs a lot of work to get some useful tones out of it. There's a thread about this running right now VSB is one of Heritage's nicest finishes for a 150. That one looks very nice. Are you going to buy it?
steve1991 Posted October 2, 2012 Author Posted October 2, 2012 I'm near Colchester but originally from Liverpool Quite a few UK members here I think. The Schaller Golden 50s are nice, low output PAF style pickups. HRWs are known for a detailed, articulate and singing neck pickup. Quite a few members here, myself included, find the bridge needs a lot of work to get some useful tones out of it. There's a thread about this running right now VSB is one of Heritage's nicest finishes for a 150. That one looks very nice. Are you going to buy it? I think so yes, its tough choosing between this and a very nice 1981 Tokai Telecaster Custom.
H Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 I think so yes, its tough choosing between this and a very nice 1981 Tokai Telecaster Custom. Even if you buy it and flip it immediately I think you could make £300 straight profit. I sold a standard VSB 150 with no pickups a few weeks ago for a little over £950.
steve1991 Posted October 2, 2012 Author Posted October 2, 2012 Even if you buy it and flip it immediately I think you could make £300 straight profit. I sold a standard VSB 150 with no pickups a few weeks ago for a little over £950. Iv been struggling to find a nice les paul for a while, I just havent been able to get on with Gibson's sound and feel. Im a strat man at heart but i always fancied a les paul or les paul style guitar.
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