koula901 Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 As everyone must have read from me, 1,000 times, I have the Noiseless Fralin P 90s and they're fabulous, of course, I'm playing classic rock, not jazz. I also have the Fralin split blade singles (hum cancelling) in the tele, and one can get nice jazz tones from that, it may not sound like an arch top, but a pretty good tone. To Mary Grass's comments on using the middle position - that's how I coped with a tele with humming singles, for years and years. On the H 137, when it came with regular Lollar P90s (not hum cancelling), I'd use middle position and had same experience of, when backing off the tone of one pup or the other, the hum cancelling property gets diminished.
2bornot2bop Posted October 27, 2012 Posted October 27, 2012 I beg to differ. A lot of things cause hum: power lines, bad electrical wiring in the house, computers, tvs, refridgerators, florescent lighting, poor grounds in the walls or pickups. It all depends upon the environment. Well, having never owned a P90 based archtop it's hard to say if having a dedicated circuit would matter. But any audiophile will tell you, myself included, if you want the best from your system you've absolutely positively got to have a dedicated line to remove your system from the rest of your household electrical noise. This is audio 101. I paid an electrician, out of work and hired from craigs, a ridiculous $400 fee, his offer not mine, to install two dedicated 20 amp lines direct from my room to the box mounted some 30 feet away in the garage...all 14 gauge high quality line, insulated, and up to code, with each line having its own breaker. I gained 8 dedicated outlets for my audio gear. My jazz amp is plugged into the same circuit. What a difference dedicated lines can make. I've yet to experience typical hum or feedback issues, knock on wood. The gear in the room constantly changes, but the one constant is clean power no matter what gear is being driven. Once dedicated circuits never back, imho.
Gitfiddler Posted October 27, 2012 Posted October 27, 2012 OMG!! 2B~ That is one serious audiophile man-cave you've got there!!
bolero Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 wow what an epic setup!! one of these days, I'd love to listen to Pink Floyd's "echoes" through a nice system like that
schundog Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 OMG!! 2B~ That is one serious audiophile man-cave you've got there!! For REAL! I dig how you roll, man!
2bornot2bop Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 Thank you all! Yes, guitars aren't the only money pit!
2bornot2bop Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 Those baffles are 100% Sapele wood hand made by a local northwest wood craftsman. Great natural sounding bass 'fer sure.
mark555 Posted October 29, 2012 Posted October 29, 2012 As everyone must have read from me, 1,000 times, I have the Noiseless Fralin P 90s and they're fabulous, of course, I'm playing classic rock, not jazz. I also have the Fralin split blade singles (hum cancelling) in the tele, and one can get nice jazz tones from that, it may not sound like an arch top, but a pretty good tone. To Mary Grass's comments on using the middle position - that's how I coped with a tele with humming singles, for years and years. On the H 137, when it came with regular Lollar P90s (not hum cancelling), I'd use middle position and had same experience of, when backing off the tone of one pup or the other, the hum cancelling property gets diminished. "Mary Grass" Killer!!!!
guitarsr Posted October 29, 2012 Posted October 29, 2012 While we're on the subject, Jason Lollar and Tom Anderson both make P90s to address the 60 Hz hum problem. I have not played guitars equipped with either. Lollar manufacturers reverse wind, reverse phase sets of P90s, which I understand will only cancel noise when both pickups are in use. http://www.lollarguitars.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=p90-pickups There is no hum when only a single Tom Anderson PQ series pickup is used, so noise cancellation must be achieved based on a different principle than RWRP. His website provides only a vague description of this. http://www.andersonguitars.com/customcontent/pickups_0609.pdf video demo: Does anyone have any experience with either the RWRP Lollar or the Anderson P90's? Does anyone know the basis for noise cancellation in the Anderson PQ series pickups?
jazzblues Posted October 29, 2012 Posted October 29, 2012 I loves me some p-90s. so what if they hum. so do strat pickups, and everyone loves them. Ugh, not everyone... Too thin sounding for me, and I should know, I've been playing one exclusively for the past several years. I NEED HUMBUCKERS! edit: But then again, I'm not playing a very high end strat - if I had an american deluxe or something I might feel differently.
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