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Will today's Heritage guitars really be the vintage guitars of tomorrow?


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With only a handful of companies manufacturing guitars using traditional processes anymore, and given The Heritage Guitar company's unique pedigree, is it realistic to believe that they will be the sought after vintage guitar of tomorrow? I have more money invested in my Heritage collection than I do in the stock market so I for one certainly hope so!

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No. Not with today's collector mindset. They don't have the "history", even tho' they are the truer to the history. Plenty of better guitars out there than the old Gibs and Fends. But those are the icons. Heritage will have a place, but I doubt they'll ever be the more sought after "vintage" guitars.

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No, too many on the market. Maybe in 100 years, but doubtful...

 

Well, since I will be around 70 by then, I will wait it out!

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I don't think there will be the same "vintage" market that you see today. LOTS of the collectors seem to be people who grew up in the 60s wanted to be a "rock star", and now they are making big bucks so they can pick a "holy grail" and buy it. I doubt that the guys who buy the high dollar guitars even play them. Doesn't much matter if they are Ferraris, Gibsons, Fenders, 62 Lincolns or Schwinn bicycles. Its not the intrinsic value, its the sentimental or emotional value.

 

The kids today won't be as enamored by guitars as we were. They'll be looking for vintage Iphone 4s, Xbox 360s, and real DVD versions of their favorite movies, not the streaming 4D holographic versions available in 2062.

 

The collectable market is more fickle than the stock market. Anybody want some Beanie Babies, or maybe a Cabbage Patch Doll? How about some Fenton Glass?

 

My guitars were bought to play, not as an investment (although at the rate the stock market is going these days, the guitars might appreciate faster than my portfolio :eek: )

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No. Not with today's collector mindset. They don't have the "history", even tho' they are the truer to the history. Plenty of better guitars out there than the old Gibs and Fends. But those are the icons. Heritage will have a place, but I doubt they'll ever be the more sought after "vintage" guitars.

 

I would have to agree... however keep in mind that the 58-60 lespauls were not considered all that great at the time of production... sales were so bad the model was discontinued... so there is hope!

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To ME, my Heritage guitars are vintage NOW!

 

I could care less about the future market or collectors. Every time I open the case and say WOW! That's vintage enough for me.

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You should hear Marv and Ren talk about the old Gibson F5 mandolins from back in the day...seems like nobody thought much about those at the time. But look at em now.

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To ME, my Heritage guitars are vintage NOW!

 

I could care less about the future market or collectors. Every time I open the case and say WOW! That's vintage enough for me.

 

amen!!!

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To ME, my Heritage guitars are vintage NOW!

 

I could care less about the future market or collectors. Every time I open the case and say WOW! That's vintage enough for me.

 

amen!!!

My thoughts, exactly.

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I believe certain Heritage guitars will be VERY collectable in the future...

 

American Eagles

Alvin Lee 535s

Gary Moore 150s

Most A, B, C, D codes

20th Ann. Models

class of 59 korina 150s

H 357s

H 150 DLX LEs

Custom 1-offs, a la Lance's H 150 custom

The lost childs, (xterminator, terminator, rambo, etc)

early sweet 16s, super eagles, 550s

 

 

thats just my take

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To ME, my Heritage guitars are vintage NOW!

 

I could care less about the future market or collectors. Every time I open the case and say WOW! That's vintage enough for me.

 

 

My thoughts, exactly.

 

Looking at your signature, I think you need a few more guitars, Fernando!

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I don't think there will be the same "vintage" market that you see today. LOTS of the collectors seem to be people who grew up in the 60s wanted to be a "rock star", and now they are making big bucks so they can pick a "holy grail" and buy it. I doubt that the guys who buy the high dollar guitars even play them. Doesn't much matter if they are Ferraris, Gibsons, Fenders, 62 Lincolns or Schwinn bicycles. Its not the intrinsic value, its the sentimental or emotional value.

 

The kids today won't be as enamored by guitars as we were. They'll be looking for vintage Iphone 4s, Xbox 360s, and real DVD versions of their favorite movies, not the streaming 4D holographic versions available in 2062.

 

The collectable market is more fickle than the stock market. Anybody want some Beanie Babies, or maybe a Cabbage Patch Doll? How about some Fenton Glass?

 

My guitars were bought to play, not as an investment (although at the rate the stock market is going these days, the guitars might appreciate faster than my portfolio :eek: )

 

Good perspective Rich. Sad, but good. When all is said and done, I think the Heritage guitars built in the Marv, Ren, Jim, Bill era will be the collectible ones, if any. Once those guys no longer make guitars, well, the ones built by Heritage will not be in the same collectibility league.

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Depends on how far into the future tomorrow is. A 59 Les Paul was collectable in 1967 when Bloomfield, Clapton, and Keith were playing them because they were perfect for the music they were into in the late 60's. So they were collectable as vintage in 9 years. Will classic rock, blues and jazz still be this popular in 2052? There will also be ton of Gibson that will sound and play just as good.

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Depends on how far into the future tomorrow is. A 59 Les Paul was collectable in 1967 when Bloomfield, Clapton, and Keith were playing them because they were perfect for the music they were into in the late 60's. So they were collectable as vintage in 9 years. Will classic rock, blues and jazz still be this popular in 2052? There will also be ton of Gibson that will sound and play just as good.

 

Naw, the 50's Les Pauls were not collectible in 67, c'mon Dan you know better than that! They were sought after by British blues players. By the Late 70's they were starting to be.

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Where did you find a reset button?

 

LOL, on the back of my amps!

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No. Not with today's collector mindset. They don't have the "history", even tho' they are the truer to the history. Plenty of better guitars out there than the old Gibs and Fends. But those are the icons. Heritage will have a place, but I doubt they'll ever be the more sought after "vintage" guitars.

 

Bingo!!! Sums my thoughts exactly!!!

 

To ME, my Heritage guitars are vintage NOW!

 

I could care less about the future market or collectors. Every time I open the case and say WOW! That's vintage enough for me.

 

AND Bingo #2!!! I never bought a guitar as investment, max out your 401Ks/IRAs for an investment..... play your guitars!!!

 

I mean to guys that buy Harleys buy them as investments to appreciate in value? Nah, they ride them!!!

Guest HRB853370
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Bingo!!! Sums my thoughts exactly!!!

 

 

 

AND Bingo #2!!! I never bought a guitar as investment, max out your 401Ks/IRAs for an investment..... play your guitars!!!

 

I mean to guys that buy Harleys buy them as investments to appreciate in value? Nah, they ride them!!!

 

Bikes are made to be ridden (not to be towed behind a truck or motor home) and guitars are made to be played.

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Yea, Will is coming around...!!!! :laughing6:

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while I don't disagree with the "not for investment", I do believe that if bought used, these guitars will certainly retain, and perhaps modestly increase in value over several years. I'd be stunned if my $1150.00 535 isn't worth more on the market in 10 - 15 years, much of that being the value of a dollar etc. not that I have any plan to test that theory.

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Did you two just actually agree on something?! Haha.

Yea, Will is coming around...!!!! :laughing6:

 

Yep! But I figured out why we sometimes don't! John is from Ohio and I am from Michigan!

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while I don't disagree with the "not for investment", I do believe that if bought used, these guitars will certainly retain, and perhaps modestly increase in value over several years. I'd be stunned if my $1150.00 535 isn't worth more on the market in 10 - 15 years, much of that being the value of a dollar etc. not that I have any plan to test that theory.

 

Right on, and I also believe those that were made under the "current regime", just because of those 4 guy's "Heritage" (no pun intended), will actually be worth more. Its kind of like saying you have a Kzoo made Gibby versus a Nashville made Gibby.

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