HANGAR18 Posted November 28, 2012 Posted November 28, 2012 I know now that Orange amps were invented a long time ago, but over the past couple of decades or more, I had never heard of them until just the past couple of years when I started seeing them appear on Craigslist. Talk about sticker shock!!! The USED asking prices for anything made by Orange almost seems at times to be more expensive than brand new Marshall amps and stuff. So, what I am interested in learning is, why are Orange amps and cabinets priced so incredibly high, even for used equipment? Are they really that good or is there some of that name brand fad stuff going on that over-inflates the price just because of the name?
DetroitBlues Posted November 29, 2012 Posted November 29, 2012 The construction of the cabs is supposed to be superior to what most builders do. Cabs are much thicker, and more sturdy. Some type of plywood the use. What ever it is, it's supposed to have better tone transfer for the speaker then any other cab. I know the Orange TT sounds awesome!
HANGAR18 Posted November 29, 2012 Author Posted November 29, 2012 The construction of the cabs is supposed to be superior to what most builders do. Cabs are much thicker, and more sturdy. Some type of plywood the use. What ever it is, it's supposed to have better tone transfer for the speaker then any other cab. I know the Orange TT sounds awesome! Interesting. The cabinet in the photo does look rather thick and like they spent a lot of effort on it. But the free standing amp heads are also really expensive too. I don't think I've heard anyone say that they don't like the way they sound.
DetroitBlues Posted November 29, 2012 Posted November 29, 2012 Yep, they're all that and a bag of snacks...
Guest HRB853370 Posted November 29, 2012 Posted November 29, 2012 I know now that Orange amps were invented a long time ago, but over the past couple of decades or more, I had never heard of them until just the past couple of years when I started seeing them appear on Craigslist. Talk about sticker shock!!! The USED asking prices for anything made by Orange almost seems at times to be more expensive than brand new Marshall amps and stuff. So, what I am interested in learning is, why are Orange amps and cabinets priced so incredibly high, even for used equipment? Are they really that good or is there some of that name brand fad stuff going on that over-inflates the price just because of the name? Its the colour. Nobody else makes orange coloured amps, so that makes them valuable in the minds of some!!
Gitfiddler Posted November 29, 2012 Posted November 29, 2012 Prince loves Orange Amps, but I haven't seen many other major artists using them. They are HUGE at NAMM... http://www.notcot.com/archives/2010/01/orange-amps-nam.php
smurph1 Posted November 29, 2012 Posted November 29, 2012 Yep, they're all that and a bag of snacks... Yes They Are!! My Tiny Terror is the BEST rock amp I've ever owned!! All Tube, 12 inch Celestion Speaker, Standby Switch, also has two modes..7 watts and 15 watts..Just a great amp..Especially with a humbucker equipped guitar!!
DetroitBlues Posted November 29, 2012 Posted November 29, 2012 Don't forget Scott, you can add another cab to it...
212Mavguy Posted November 29, 2012 Posted November 29, 2012 Its the colour. Nobody else makes orange coloured amps, so that makes them valuable in the minds of some!! Might want to look at some chassis and gut shots of the old ones to see the ah, heritage behind today's stuff, interpretation also depends on what knowledge is stored behind those eyes. Ever price a Narb, Park, or Harry Joyce built Hiwatt? There are some very good reasons for the prices besides market forces. Peace.
FredZepp Posted November 29, 2012 Posted November 29, 2012 Here's Jimmy Page with his Orange amps.... ( Modified to say OR GE ) Peter Green..
Thundersteel Posted November 29, 2012 Posted November 29, 2012 I think Orange had been considered as "the other Marshall."
HANGAR18 Posted November 29, 2012 Author Posted November 29, 2012 Prince loves Orange Amps, but I haven't seen many other major artists using them. I just noticed this the other day... The Black Sabbath video "Paranoid" from their first album looks like they have a bunch of Orange cabinets visible. http://youtu.be/NZyVZFJGX5g
HANGAR18 Posted November 29, 2012 Author Posted November 29, 2012 Its the colour. Nobody else makes orange coloured amps, so that makes them valuable in the minds of some!! I'm not a big fan of the color orange but I did notice at that NAMM link above that they make some of the cabinets in black too.
Steiner Posted November 30, 2012 Posted November 30, 2012 The first time I remember seeing one was in Paul Kossof's backline.
bobmeyrick Posted November 30, 2012 Posted November 30, 2012 The first Orange amps were built by a company called Matamp - Orange was originally a music shop, whose owner (Clifford Cooper) went into partnership with Mat Mathias of Matamp to produce Orange amps. The partnership split in the mid 1970s and the two went their separate ways. Matamp today are something of a boutique amp company - they're hand built in Holmfirth, Yorkshire, just down the road from Mark555 (who I believe is a big fan of them). Worth investigating.
Kuz Posted November 30, 2012 Posted November 30, 2012 Orange has REALLY bumped up their marketing and endorsers (not that this is a bad thing). I am just saying that 10 years ago you NEVER saw an Orange amp. Mikenov, who used to be very active here, brought his 50Watt Orange head to PSPIII and it was the best overdriven sounding amp there.
HANGAR18 Posted November 30, 2012 Author Posted November 30, 2012 Okay, I talked to a guy today who said that Orange cabinets only sound good if you use an Orange amp with them in that they (the cabinets) wouldn't sound good with any other brand of amp plugged into it. I thought that was interesting but I don't really have the means or the interest to test that particular opinion.
Blunote Posted December 1, 2012 Posted December 1, 2012 Okay, I talked to a guy today who said that Orange cabinets only sound good if you use an Orange amp with them in that they (the cabinets) wouldn't sound good with any other brand of amp plugged into it. I thought that was interesting but I don't really have the means or the interest to test that particular opinion. Sounds to me like someone's over-thought the subject.
Kuz Posted December 1, 2012 Posted December 1, 2012 Well, Mesa Cabs really only sound good with a Triple Recifier-like head. And Thiele Cabs with EV12M speakers only sound good with certain amps. Fender amps use open back cabs, Marshall largely use close backs. Point is, Orange probably do "voice" their cabs toward their amps.
DetroitBlues Posted December 1, 2012 Posted December 1, 2012 Okay, I talked to a guy today who said that Orange cabinets only sound good if you use an Orange amp with them in that they (the cabinets) wouldn't sound good with any other brand of amp plugged into it. I thought that was interesting but I don't really have the means or the interest to test that particular opinion. I seriously doubt that. But if it helps sell a matching head so be it!
DetroitBlues Posted December 1, 2012 Posted December 1, 2012 Well, Mesa Cabs really only sound good with a Triple Recifier-like head. And Thiele Cabs with EV12M speakers only sound good with certain amps. Fender amps use open back cabs, Marshall largely use close backs. Point is, Orange probably do "voice" their cabs toward their amps. Never thought of that...
Blunote Posted December 1, 2012 Posted December 1, 2012 Point is, Orange probably do "voice" their cabs toward their amps. No doubt about that. I'm just not buying the premise that Orange cabs only sound good with Orange heads; or vice-versa.
smokedtires Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 Had a BJ that I had modded and still felt I couldn't get the "rock" sound I was after. Replaced with the TT combo and it has been great. Very easily get that Jimmy Page sound with my H140. Replacing the TT will be the Orange TH30 combo which looks even more versatile and has an effect loop. Strangely, I had the extension 1x12 Orange cab to go with my TT combo and liked the sound better without the ext.
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