bluesgolfer Posted December 17, 2012 Posted December 17, 2012 Thinking of ordering a Heritage H-137, 2 P90's.Anybody played the above configuration in a Korina vs Mahogany? If so, please state your preference, if any, and tonal/performance characteristics of each wood. Thanks in advance.Also, may order it with neck binding. Any thoughts in that regard? Again, thanks in advance.
Guest HRB853370 Posted December 17, 2012 Posted December 17, 2012 Brent could help you with that, he has had both (what hasn't Brent had). I have the mahogany and I love it.
eljay Posted December 18, 2012 Posted December 18, 2012 +1 to mahog. mine is such and has 2 p90s and it is a fine, fine axe. i like the notion of binding on a 137, also. good luck with your quest.
davesultra Posted December 18, 2012 Posted December 18, 2012 I had a mahogany 137 and it was awesome. Personally, I don't think Korina adds anything other than aesthetics, as it's just another variation of Mahogany. My .02
DetroitBlues Posted December 18, 2012 Posted December 18, 2012 There are a few owners that had both. Isn't Korina a tone wood similar to Mahogany?
bluesgolfer Posted December 18, 2012 Author Posted December 18, 2012 Alright. I'll probably go with Mahogany. Next issue. Neck binding or no neck binding?
kbp810 Posted December 18, 2012 Posted December 18, 2012 Hmm, interesting idea on the binding - to me the 137's magic is in it's simplicity, a raw lean mean tone machine. I'm having a hard time visualizing what it might look like with a bound neck. So I guess my vote leans towards no binding - for whatever my opinion on the matter would be worth, lol. The only two opinions that count are yours and Heritages's - if Heritage doesn't think it will work out or look good, they ain't going to build it! On that note, perhaps one nice personal touch that wouldn't take much away from the traditional simple design would be to go with a MOP "The Heritage" inlay on the headstock? Either way, stop thinking about it and hurry up and get that 137 ordered! The sooner you pull the trigger, the sooner they can start building it for you!
DetroitBlues Posted December 18, 2012 Posted December 18, 2012 I'm a huge fan of binding... But the 137 usually doesn't have it. Would be interesting to see. Keeping the dot inlays and rosewood fretboard?
Number8 Posted December 18, 2012 Posted December 18, 2012 ...to me the 137's magic is in it's simplicity, a raw lean mean tone machine. bingo
bluesgolfer Posted December 18, 2012 Author Posted December 18, 2012 I'm a huge fan of binding... But the 137 usually doesn't have it. Would be interesting to see. Keeping the dot inlays and rosewood fretboard? Yes, Rosewood and dots. Do the 137's come standard with rolled edges or is that something I would have to request?
koula901 Posted December 18, 2012 Posted December 18, 2012 I wonder if korina would be lighter than mahogany, if that's an issue for you. My 137 is made of mahogany and is light enough. with fralin noisless P90s, it screams.
bluesgolfer Posted December 18, 2012 Author Posted December 18, 2012 I wonder if korina would be lighter than mahogany, if that's an issue for you. My 137 is made of mahogany and is light enough. with fralin noisless P90s, it screams. No, not worried about the weight. My concern regarding Korina versus mahogany was purely from a tonal perspective.
bluesgolfer Posted December 18, 2012 Author Posted December 18, 2012 Decided against the binding. Re-thinking the body wood, Mahogany vs Korina. Everybody feel free to give your thoughts.
Gitfiddler Posted December 18, 2012 Posted December 18, 2012 Korina is African Limba, and is in the Mahogany family. It can be heavy, but is considered a fine tonewood, similar to Mahogany. I'd go with Korina for its beauty and since it is less common. Plus in some circles it is considered an upgrade. As for neck binding it would look better with a bound headstock...which looks better with a pearl inlayed Heritage logo...all which pushes up the price. I say go for the gusto if you are having it built. Only you can decide what suits your personal taste. The one constant is that Heritage will build one fine H137, whatever options you come up with.
DetroitBlues Posted December 18, 2012 Posted December 18, 2012 Yes, Rosewood and dots. Do the 137's come standard with rolled edges or is that something I would have to request? Never heard of rolled edges other than maple board strats...
Spectrum13 Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 Click on this! Korina and P90s. I find it lighter than mahagony. I would advise a MOP "the Heritage" and if ou bind the neck, bind the headstock too.
H Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 I'd go with Korina so JackBaruth would buy it from you when you get tired of it
SouthpawGuy Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 In my opinion a 137 with neck and headstock binding, plus trap or block inlays will start to look like a 150 / P-90s minus the maple cap. I'd keep it simple, maybe have the headstock inlay in mop. My own 137 is mahogany in old style burst fitted with Fralin hum free P-90s.
Number8 Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 Bound headstock without a bound neck might look like Donald Duck (i.e. shirt with no pants).
DetroitBlues Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 Bound headstock without a bound neck might look like Donald Duck (i.e. shirt with no pants).
bluesgolfer Posted December 19, 2012 Author Posted December 19, 2012 Bound headstock without a bound neck might look like Donald Duck (i.e. shirt with no pants). That's pretty much my sentiment as well after giving it a little more thought. I have decided against binding altogether. Now, I'm pretty much back to whether I should go Korina or Mahogany. Still waiting to hear Brentrocks' or anybody else's opinion and insight in that regard. I like blues and will be getting into jazz a little in the future. Not too much into rock except maybe stuff like Floyd. Not into banging chords loudly.
rjsanders Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 mahogany's come to be a sweeping label for a number of unrelated species, none of which is korina (white/black limba). so, hard to say, cuz i don't know what Heritage means when they say "mahogany". here's a useful reference: http://www.wood-database.com/ since what's used for mahogany is of different genera than korina, they're not considered related. but since they have similar tonal and workability characteristics and appearance, they're often lumped together. my co-favorite guitar has a mahogany (Indian, i think) body and *big* black limba neck. love it. gist: Les Pauls are where i came from originally and kind of define my base sound. so if i already had a mahogany guitar, i'd go all-korina for a 2nd and order natural finish. this guitar i got is well suited for any style of guitbox musix.
bluesgolfer Posted December 20, 2012 Author Posted December 20, 2012 My concern about getting mahogany is that it may sound too much like my 157 or Gibson Les Paul. But, I have never heard a 137 in Korina or Mahogany, which is why I am trying to pick the brains here of those who have experienced both. Here is what I have read or heard about the pros and cons of both: KORINA Pros: Articulate, cuts through the mix, clarity, snap Cons: Bright, lacks warmth Mahogany: Pros: Warm, more sustain Cons: less articulate, especially on the low end, can be too dark especially on the neck pickup Any thoughts on the above?
TalismanRich Posted December 20, 2012 Posted December 20, 2012 I don't think that the difference between the two woods will make near the difference that the maple cap on the 157 and LP would make. The 137 will be much more akin to a Jr or an SG in wood construction. Part of the reason for the maple cap was to add brightness to the mahogany. The Korina should be lighter than the mahogany.
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