brentrocks Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 I've always preferred the '70s SGs with the more deeply inset neck and longer horns, both from a looks and sound perspective. The old-style ones have great upper fret access, but there just isn't a lot of neck/body contact, and notes on the upper frets have no "pop" to them. And then there's the whole "neck falling off" thing... :laugh: Frank Marino had a real problem on his hands when he modified his old '60s SG for three single-coil pickups. The extra routing basically made the guitar fall apart, and he had to epoxy it all back together. I've heard it in concert, and it still sounds great, though. Of course, he could make any guitar sound great. Personally, I would rather have an H-110 with the extended upper horn than either a 170 or a Heritage SG. But I realize that's just my preference. Frank Marino is awesome...his album "juggernaut" is incredible!!! ;D
slider313 Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 All points well taken. They could always go the route that Carvin did and make them with the neck through design.
pro-fusion Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 All points well taken. They could always go the route that Carvin did and make them with the neck through design. There's precedent for that. Tony Iommi's custom-made John Birch SGs in the '70s were neckthru, I believe. The SG design lends itself to neckthru construction. Not very traditional, though.
111518 Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 Pro-fusion's mention of Iommi's guitars made me curious about another custom "SG:" Frank Zappa's "Baby Snakes." Check out this picture, esp. from the stop back. Looks to me like it could be the tenon of a neck through --but then it doesn't seem to continue between stop and bridge. I know the guitar was custom made and not a Gibson, even though it said "Gibson" on the headstock, but I can't find anything that explains how it was constructed, or pictures other than front views. Probably not a neck through, but I thought for a second I had made a cool discovery. ( ...for me at least; clearly, I need a life) http://www.oxygene8.com/pix/frank_Bart2.jpg[/img]
pro-fusion Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 I never could understand how Zappa got that thick, lustrous tone out of a freakin' SG. Maybe my favorite tone ever. I know he was using some crazy processing gear and a multi-amp setup back when that was exotic stuff.
111518 Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 Pro-fusion: Check this out ...Dweezil, playing the SG and explaining how the onboard preamp and other stuff influenced Zappa's tone ... http://guitarplayertv.com/index.html?chann...l/dweezilsnakes
pro-fusion Posted August 14, 2008 Posted August 14, 2008 Pro-fusion:Check this out ...Dweezil, playing the SG and explaining how the onboard preamp and other stuff influenced Zappa's tone ... http://guitarplayertv.com/index.html?chann...l/dweezilsnakes Holy cow! That might be the most electronics ever crammed into one guitar. I don't see how all those primitive '70s circuits could have fit inside that skinny SG body. He must have been putting that same axe through a more robust amplifier later in the '70s, when his tone got bigger than it was on Apostrophe and Overnite Sensation etc.
buelahbones Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 I hope this will help. We use to make a 170 in the late 80's, but we discontinued them. Too bad. Nah, just kidding we are bringing it back as a second edition, just sent the first one up to finish a few weeks ago. I hope you guys will all order one. http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t63/FrogAngel55/1989_The_Heritage_H-170CM_F27102.jpg[/img]
fxdx99 Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 Hey, cool! Are they gonna come in 'katie-burst' finish option? 8)
Thundersteel Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 Katie, Nice axe, but I wish Heritage would quit installing those ugly plastic pickguards on their guitars--they cover up so much of that beautiful wood! Maybe they should just leave them in the case for the owner to install it if they want to. Just a thought...
bilbal Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 I hope this will help. We use to make a 170 in the late 80's, but we discontinued them.Too bad. Nah, just kidding we are bringing it back as a second edition, just sent the first one up to finish a few weeks ago. I hope you guys will all order one. http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t63/FrogAngel55/1989_The_Heritage_H-170CM_F27102.jpg[/img] Sign me up for one. I love the body shape - like Malcolm Young's Gretsch. So when do you think they'll be available? bilbal
Heritage525 Posted August 25, 2008 Author Posted August 25, 2008 Well . . . . . I did the dirty! :-* I just got a 2005 Gibson Custom Shop SG VOS, and man is it sweet! It is slightly reliced (Murphy aging process?) and plays, feels and sounds sweet! My first Gibby . . . . . I gotta say, Gibson's custom shop is right on with this guitar. Feels just like a Heritage!
slider313 Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 Well . . . . . I did the dirty! :-* I just got a 2005 Gibson Custom Shop SG VOS, and man is it sweet! It is slightly reliced (Murphy aging process?) and plays, feels and sounds sweet! My first Gibby . . . . . I gotta say, Gibson's custom shop is right on with this guitar. Feels just like a Heritage! Well.....................I don't see any pics ! Let's go....give it up.
Heritage525 Posted August 27, 2008 Author Posted August 27, 2008 Give me a few days, I am in Michigan on vacation, will post some next week!
bilbal Posted August 28, 2008 Posted August 28, 2008 Congrats on the SG. I dig them. I hope you enjoy it. Cannot wait to see pictures when you get them going. Bill
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