pcovers Posted February 17, 2013 Posted February 17, 2013 Seller on eBay is calling this a 140: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130852649463&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 I see it has an old style bridge. The original 140 design was a sharp cutaway, which was changed to a soft, 150 style cutaway I am thinking about 8 years ago. I have never seen even one H140 with the old style bridge. I always thought the bridge change came before the H140 2nd Edition (soft cutaway). I think he is confusing that is has dots instead of blocks as differentiating a 140 from a 150. Just doesn't look like a 2nd ed H140. Thoughts? did the bridge change precede the 2nd edition H140?
big bob Posted February 17, 2013 Posted February 17, 2013 It could be a 150 special? Poplar back, and dots.
mars_hall Posted February 17, 2013 Posted February 17, 2013 My guess would be a 150P. I say this because you can often see the grain when poplar is used on these, which I believe I can see in the pickguard area.
pcovers Posted February 17, 2013 Author Posted February 17, 2013 Serial number of K34104 puts its year of manufacture at 1994. I don't think the H140 2nd edition soft cutaway was introduced until around 2003 or later.
SouthpawGuy Posted February 17, 2013 Posted February 17, 2013 The all over gold finish = 150P 150P were solid colours only, never seen a burst, natural or trans finish 150P, probably because poplar doesn't have the appearance or grain for it.
bobmeyrick Posted February 17, 2013 Posted February 17, 2013 I have a 150 Special goldtop, and the fingerboard is bound, while the back is dark brown. A 150P seems to be the best bet.
michaeljames Posted February 17, 2013 Posted February 17, 2013 i agree ~ i once had a 150P ~ all black ~ poplar ~ it sounded great with the original schallers, bridge and tailpiece. fwiw my opinion would be to go for a used H150 with mahogany back, maple top, trap inlays for about $50 bucks more ~ unless you're in a hurry to buy and need a gold top right away. You certainly would not be dissapointed with the H150P!
pressure Posted February 17, 2013 Posted February 17, 2013 I had a 150p, it was a great guitar. The description of this guitar matches my 150p.
HANGAR18 Posted February 17, 2013 Posted February 17, 2013 The all over gold finish = 150P 150P were solid colours only, never seen a burst, natural or trans finish 150P, probably because poplar doesn't have the appearance or grain for it. I am under the impression that my H150 Special is a poplar body with a maple top. Seen here, this is a very light VSB (Vintage SunBurst). http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/1998/h150spcl1.jpg
SouthpawGuy Posted February 17, 2013 Posted February 17, 2013 The body thickness would be the giveaway .... the 150 Special sits in between the 150 and the 150P. The 150 is 2" thick at the rim.
High Flying Bird Posted February 17, 2013 Posted February 17, 2013 Here is Jim's 150 Special. I think it's a 1996.
HANGAR18 Posted February 18, 2013 Posted February 18, 2013 The body thickness would be the giveaway .... the 150 Special sits in between the 150 and the 150P. The 150 is 2" thick at the rim. The H150 Special and the H150P are not the same thing? My guitar has a 1 3/4 inch rim measurement. The thinner body is noticeably more comfortable for me but may not be as noticeable for someone else.
bigsbytp Posted February 18, 2013 Posted February 18, 2013 Ebay add was corrected. Now listed as an H150. Not everyone knows...so I guess ..they guess some times.
bobmeyrick Posted February 18, 2013 Posted February 18, 2013 The H150 Special and the H150P are not the same thing? My guitar has a 1 3/4 inch rim measurement. The thinner body is noticeably more comfortable for me but may not be as noticeable for someone else. The 150 Special has a maple cap, while my understanding is that the 150P doesn't. Here's my 150 Special. The pickups have since been changed to Seymour Duncan P-Rails. making it a very versatile guitar.
SouthpawGuy Posted February 18, 2013 Posted February 18, 2013 The H150 Special and the H150P are not the same thing? My guitar has a 1 3/4 inch rim measurement. The thinner body is noticeably more comfortable for me but may not be as noticeable for someone else. No, not the same thing. There were three different models, don't know if they were all produced at the same time, the 150, the 150 Special and the 150P. The 150P was all poplar no maple cap, the thinnest of the three. The "standard" 150 is 2" thick at the rim, with the 150 Special being thinner and the 150P the thinnest. The difference between each model was about 1/4" at the rim.
HANGAR18 Posted February 18, 2013 Posted February 18, 2013 No, not the same thing. There were three different models, don't know if they were all produced at the same time, the 150, the 150 Special and the 150P. The 150P was all poplar no maple cap, the thinnest of the three. The "standard" 150 is 2" thick at the rim, with the 150 Special being thinner and the 150P the thinnest. The difference between each model was about 1/4" at the rim. Oh wow, that's cool. I would have never guessed they would have made an all poplar body. Long before I had learned about the H150 Special, I had it on my mind to get a Les Paul style guitar with a maple top and a poplar body. Then one day very unexpectantly, the one I have now crossed my path and I jumped at it immediately. I'm very happy with it and I like the dots. The bridge on mine hasn't been upgraded like Bird's and Bobmeyrick's so it looks a little cheap like an Epiphone bridge but it works. One of the guys at PSP5 cautioned me that the poplar body is softer and so it is easier to gouge up than mahogany so I'm being extra careful with it since the guitar is still in mint condition. I wouldn't mind having another one but I've got a couple standard H150's on my GAS list and maybe another H157. And either a 535 or a Roy Clark model. And a Millie. And an H110. hahahaha
bobmeyrick Posted February 18, 2013 Posted February 18, 2013 The bridge on mine hasn't been upgraded like Bird's and Bobmeyrick's .... The bridge on mine hasn't been upgraded - it's the standard Schaller.
HANGAR18 Posted February 18, 2013 Posted February 18, 2013 The bridge on mine hasn't been upgraded - it's the standard Schaller. Well, I don't know what's on mine but it doesn't look like either of yours or my H157.
DavesNotHere Posted February 18, 2013 Posted February 18, 2013 A closer look. I love the top on that one! Is that the one Skydog had for sale not too terribly long ago?
HANGAR18 Posted February 18, 2013 Posted February 18, 2013 I love the top on that one! Is that the one Skydog had for sale not too terribly long ago? Yes, and he's never getting it back! hahahaha That's okay, he's into hollow bodies now.
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