Gitfiddler Posted October 23, 2007 Posted October 23, 2007 As a certified anal retentive, I just cannot understand why people purchase a perfectly nice guitar, then send it out to a company to 'age' it. Some pay a premium for 'aged' or 'relic'd' guitars from Gibson or Fender or private builders. Yes, dents and dings happen as the years go by...but I could not even think of intentionally damaging any of my guitars. What am I missing?!
Yankeefan01 Posted October 23, 2007 Posted October 23, 2007 I think they're kind of cool looking but since I usually buy used, the guitars I get are naturally aged.
grayta Posted October 23, 2007 Posted October 23, 2007 As a certified anal retentive, I just cannot understand why people purchase a perfectly nice guitar, then send it out to a company to 'age' it. Some pay a premium for 'aged' or 'relic'd' guitars from Gibson or Fender or private builders. Yes, dents and dings happen as the years go by...but I could not even think of intentionally damaging any of my guitars. What am I missing?! You're missing nothing. What you have is an over abundance of common sense! ;D
GuitArtMan Posted October 23, 2007 Posted October 23, 2007 Natural gentle relicing - good. Artificial heavy relicing - bad.
deluxemeat Posted October 23, 2007 Posted October 23, 2007 isn't it more fun to get it that way yourself? my first thought when i see a pre-aged guitar is someone is "trying to buy cool" and look like a road warrior.
JohnCovach Posted October 23, 2007 Posted October 23, 2007 I relic and age my own guitars using completely natural processes, though this can take years.
Dick Seacup Posted October 23, 2007 Posted October 23, 2007 isn't it more fun to get it that way yourself? my first thought when i see a pre-aged guitar is someone is "trying to buy cool" and look like a road warrior. Let me share my thoughts about middle-aged guys who buy Harley-Davidson's and all the black leather accessories. ;D
GuitArtMan Posted October 23, 2007 Posted October 23, 2007 As a certified anal retentive, I just cannot understand why people purchase a perfectly nice guitar, then send it out to a company to 'age' it. Some pay a premium for 'aged' or 'relic'd' guitars from Gibson or Fender or private builders. Yes, dents and dings happen as the years go by...but I could not even think of intentionally damaging any of my guitars. What am I missing?! Some people think it adds "mojo" to their guitars. What they fail to realize is the guitars is that they have it ass backwards. The guitars that had mojo in the first place got dinged and worn because their owners loved them and played the sh!# out of them. They didn't suddenly gain mojo because they were dinged and worn - they had mojo to begin with.
squawken Posted October 23, 2007 Posted October 23, 2007 I agree with everyone here. I only have one guitar that has that aged look. And I did it over 25 years. Kind of reminds me of all my friends. They are getting older and uglier, but still my friends.
skydog Posted October 23, 2007 Posted October 23, 2007 this is a touchy subject and i've seen it lead to some nasty name calling on other forums. my advice is to let this one die!
davesultra Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 It can look cool, but the whole idea of paying someone to beat the shite out of a guitar just doesn't seem right to me. But hey, to each their own I suppose. :-
JohnCovach Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 Does anybody else remember the Saturday Night Live commercial for Levi's three-legged jeans? After the usual hip dance scenes played over "a leg and a leg and a leg," the punchline was: "Levi's three-legged jeans--hey it's no worse than acid washed."
golferwave Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 The only thing I can add to this is that George Gruhn once said "Why would I pay extra money to have someone beat up a new guitar?" I agree with that philosophy.
Dick Seacup Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 Does anybody else remember the Saturday Night Live commercial for Levi's three-legged jeans? After the usual hip dance scenes played over "a leg and a leg and a leg," the punchline was: "Levi's three-legged jeans--hey it's no worse than acid washed." I don't remember that, but for some reason, it reminded me of the MadTV (I think that was it) skit "Lowered Expectations."
CrustHunter Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 I guess its all about freedom of choice You pays your money................?
dblazer Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 I've always tried to keep my guns, cameras, guitars and anything else I get that's in good shape or new "nice", the idea of beating on something nice to give you "street cred" for dings that aren't "earned" is stupid. But people should do what they want, it's their stuff.
mikeymix Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 Well i own a Fender Jazzmaster that was 'Relic'd' for the 2003 Namm show. Fender made up a batch with matching head stocks. I would have still bought the guitar, if it had not been put through the relic process. The neck barely went thru the process. The body and hardware moderatly so. I like that the neck is almost new, feels worn in, but not f'd up. That guitar just feels right being a relic. New Jazzmasters with all the plastic bits just jumps out at you. They sort of look cheap to me. With Relic'd' Guitars you dont have to be so precious with them. If you get a mark, it's not the end of the world. You're just adding to the process...increasing the mojo as it were. I play out with my guitars and i like the fact i dont have to baby them so much. Most of the time, spanking new guitars look kind of garish, and dilettantish to me.
doggy1972 Posted October 25, 2007 Posted October 25, 2007 I like new guitars but, they soon get "reliced" with me around. Leave em be and the mojo will come.
jacques Posted October 25, 2007 Posted October 25, 2007 As a certified anal retentive, GAS (hence its double or triple meaning) is of course a side effect of anal retention, but in Freuds opinion has more to do with anal regression. Collecting reliced guitars must be a much more serious problem. Collectors need a forum of their own for mutual comfort and understanding. This is too serious a subject for us humble Heritageians to even discuss.
JohnCovach Posted October 25, 2007 Posted October 25, 2007 This is too serious a subject for us humble Heritageians to even discuss. I really like Jacques' use of the term "Heritageians" here! I'm not sure how many of us are actually humble, but I do like "Heritageian." (It's a kind of cross between "Hegelian" and humbucking pickups.) ;D
Dick Seacup Posted October 25, 2007 Posted October 25, 2007 Why do you want to bring synthesizers in to this, John?
jacques Posted October 25, 2007 Posted October 25, 2007 Thanks, John for honouring me with this mighty compliment. And thanks Dick for your most hilarious comment which made me laugh so loud the kids came up to see what's happenin with Paw. You could take away the winking emoticon to make it even better. Both your kharmas have just been raised to very unhumble levels indeed . As a non-native speaker I wonder how one would pronounce 'Heritagian'. I forgot how to write phonetics since I never use them any more, so would it be Heritageian like in 'Asian' or -sticking more to the way "heritage' is pronounced- 'Heritageian like in 'pigeon'?
JohnCovach Posted October 25, 2007 Posted October 25, 2007 I'd say it like "pigeon." Of course, many of us Heritageians are also Michiganders.
wingnut1 Posted October 25, 2007 Posted October 25, 2007 Or former Michiganders and some of use were even born and raised in the Zoo. To get back on post, I prefer my guitars to stay in the best condition possible. My guitar teacher has late 60s early 70 LP Custom that looks beat to SH*T, but sounds and plays great. I cringe every time I see that guitar, it looks so mistreated.
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