H Posted May 11, 2013 Posted May 11, 2013 I saw these tuners on a recent model Firebird I played a couple of days ago. They're really smooth and give the headstock that classic look. They're made by Steinberger and StewMac stocks them. Worth a look for your 357? http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tuners/Guitar,_solid_peghead_tuners/Steinberger_Gearless_Tuners.html
big bob Posted May 11, 2013 Posted May 11, 2013 I have them on a home build, they work great, and stay in tune really well!
eljay Posted May 11, 2013 Posted May 11, 2013 yes, banjo style. marv puts conventional tuners on 357s. i'm glad he does.
bolero Posted May 12, 2013 Posted May 12, 2013 OI had those on an epi firebird & they worked fine. a bit heavy though my 357 has what appears to be slightly smaller grovers, they work great & I prefer them even over banjo tuners
gpuma Posted May 12, 2013 Posted May 12, 2013 Never had or even played a firebird, but they have a reputation for being neck heavy because of the banjo tuners. How do these compare?
High Flying Bird Posted May 12, 2013 Posted May 12, 2013 They look cool but I didn't like that you had to use a tool to change strings. I like the mini Grover's. My Firebird isn't neck heavy at all. It hangs just right.
yoslate Posted May 12, 2013 Posted May 12, 2013 They look cool but I didn't like that you had to use a tool to change strings. Since beginning work at a luthier's a year-and-a-half ago, I've discovered many people use a tool to change their strings. I've never resented it though....
High Flying Bird Posted May 12, 2013 Posted May 12, 2013 What I understood was you needed a wrench to secure the strings in the tuner. Sure I use needle nose and a cutter when I change strings but that is as far as I am willing to go.
big bob Posted May 12, 2013 Posted May 12, 2013 Mine must be an older model, there is no tool necessary accept me.
High Flying Bird Posted May 12, 2013 Posted May 12, 2013 Mine must be an older model, there is no tool necessary accept me. Could have been the ones I was reviewing were older. If you remember we talked about these when I was working up the order on my Firebird. You had me convinced then I read about having to tighten the string down with an allen wrench.
Spectrum13 Posted May 12, 2013 Posted May 12, 2013 They appear to be locking tuners. Do they lock by turning the key on the faceplate and tune them by turning the barrel on the back?
PunkKitty Posted May 12, 2013 Posted May 12, 2013 They are locking tuners. They work just as you described ^^^. My Epi Firebird isn't neck heavy. It's well balanced with a nice chunky neck.
bolero Posted May 12, 2013 Posted May 12, 2013 Since beginning work at a luthier's a year-and-a-half ago, I've discovered many people use a tool to change their strings. I've never resented it though.... Yoslate...don't put yourself down like that!!
rockabilly69 Posted May 12, 2013 Posted May 12, 2013 If you have banjo tuners on on your Firebird/357 they are worth changing to, especially to cure the problematic neck dive, but if you've got small grovers it's really not necessary as they are quite a bit lighter than banjo tuners, and work much better. That said these Steinberger tuners are GREAT tuners, and should be what all Firebird style guitar builders should use to keep the clean headstock design and also for their great fine tuning ratio!
yoslate Posted May 12, 2013 Posted May 12, 2013 Yoslate...don't put yourself down like that!! Chris, I traffic in self-deprecating humor.... It's what I do. I was attempting "funny." Clearly missed the target...again. And no, that "target" reference not an invitation to anyone to hijack this thread, too....
yoslate Posted May 13, 2013 Posted May 13, 2013 haha yeah I know I was just piling on.. Pile of one.... ; ) Hope you're doing well. PSP this year?
tulk1 Posted May 13, 2013 Posted May 13, 2013 Since beginning work at a luthier's a year-and-a-half ago, I've discovered many people use a tool to change their strings. I've never resented it though.... Hehe ....
LK155 Posted May 26, 2013 Posted May 26, 2013 Chris, I traffic in self-deprecating humor.... It's what I do. I was attempting "funny." Clearly missed the target...again. And no, that "target" reference not an invitation to anyone to hijack this thread, too.... What? All this time I've thought that adjective was "self-defecating". Guess I learned something today.
bolero Posted May 27, 2013 Posted May 27, 2013 ah...I wouldn't have piled on if it was self-defecating...although if Yoslate was self-defecating I wouldn't stop him from piling it on, himself
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