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H575... but with laminate top?

lordofuo

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lordofuo Newbie

lordofuo

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Hi, I've been interested in either a Heritage H575 or a Gibson ES 175. However, I've read that the H575 is a carved-top guitar, which means it will be more prone to feedback problems in a louder live situation.

 

Does anyone know if Heritage makes/has made an ES 175 type guitar with a laminate top?

 

Thanks,

 

Alex

tsp17 Proficient

tsp17

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The discontinued H-576 is probably what you are looking for. There are a few out there for sale.

+1. I love mine.

mark555 Experienced

mark555

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Which ever you go for (welcome to the club by the way,) it is a fact that the Heritage will be of a superior build quality to the Gibson... If you go for new one you can choose no end of specifications for yourself.

Gitfiddler Mentor

Gitfiddler

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H525%20OSB.jpg

 

The 525 is laminate top with a thinner body than the 575

 

 

Body : Single cutaway, Laminated cream bound curly maple top and back, hollow body with solid maple rim.

 

Body Size :

 

Rim Thickness – 1 5/8”

Body Width – 16" with 2 1/4" rim

Body Length - 20 1/4"

 

 

 

http://www.heritageguitar.com/models/h525osb_specs.html

 

 

The H-525 can be special ordered with humbuckers. I'd imagine great tones from one loaded with Seths.

 

H525DALSBFront.JPG

SouthpawGuy Veteran

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The H-525 can be special ordered with humbuckers. I'd imagine great tones from one loaded with Seths.

 

H525DALSBFront.JPG

 

That would be an interesting combo to try out.

 

Is that one your own ?

mark555 Experienced

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The 576 is a blast to play, it's big but handles gain fairly well. I have P-Rails in mine for extra versatility.

 

Gratuitous pic ...

 

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Paul, which guitars DON'T you own? !! Another spectacular instrument...

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Gitfiddler

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Nah! That was one of Jeff Hale's special orders. I'm sure its long been sold.

 

After looking at the image again, and it might just be the photo's perspective, but the lower bout attachment of the tailpiece appears a bit off center to me.

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Gitfiddler

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Nah! That was one of Jeff Hale's special orders. I'm sure its long been sold.

 

After looking at the image again, and it might just be the photo's perspective, but the lower bout attachment of the tailpiece appears a bit off center to me.

edit: I was responding to Mark555's question about me owning that 525. That's the one that has the off center tailpiece.

SouthpawGuy Veteran

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Nah! That was one of Jeff Hale's special orders. I'm sure its long been sold.

 

After looking at the image again, and it might just be the photo's perspective, but the lower bout attachment of the tailpiece appears a bit off center to me.

 

Thought maybe you'd snuck one by the other half :icon_pirat:

SouthpawGuy Veteran

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Paul, which guitars DON'T you own? !! Another spectacular instrument...

 

Thanks. I almost owned a 525, with block inlays and bound headstock, but it wasn't to be. It arrived state side with a nasty crack in the neck so back it went. The 576 appeared for sale about a year later, so I didn't hesitate, haven't seen another lefty one for sale before or since.

 

( Having said that three will probably appear fs in the next week or two.)

SouthpawGuy Veteran

SouthpawGuy

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The H-525 can be special ordered with humbuckers. I'd imagine great tones from one loaded with Seths.

 

H525DALSBFront.JPG

 

 

edit: I was responding to Mark555's question about me owning that 525. That's the one that has the off center tailpiece.

 

The whole guitar looks "squashed" in that photo, maybe the aspect ratio is off on the image. Or it's a fish eye effect on the lens ?

111518 Collaborator

111518

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Hi, I've been interested in either a Heritage H575 or a Gibson ES 175. However, I've read that the H575 is a carved-top guitar, which means it will be more prone to feedback problems in a louder live situation.

 

Does anyone know if Heritage makes/has made an ES 175 type guitar with a laminate top?

 

Thanks,

 

Alex

 

You might also try out an H550. It is laminated, and has what might be called a reinforced top and is more resistant to feedback certainly than a carved 17" guitar. The fact that the 550 has both a slightly thinner rim and a less pronounced arch of top and back than some 17" guitars means that, to me at least, in use it does not feel much larger than a 175 (I own both a 550 and a 175), and certainly not as large as a L-5. So, don't let the 17" dimension lead you to think it is huge compared to a 175. (Given Heritage's number system, the Gibson to which the 550 relates is probably the es-350, but that guitar, a lam. 17" electric archtop, has not been produced in its full depth form in a long time. The 350t remained in production longer, and has been reissued.)

 

I do remember seeing that Jay Wolfe custom ordered and stocked a few laminated 575's --sort of full-depth prototypes of the 525. So, getting back to your original question, such a guitar --lam. 575--has existed, but I think very few were made.

 

--so, several Heritage models to perhaps try: Groovemaster, 576, 525, 550.

Gitfiddler Mentor

Gitfiddler

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Oh good... I was going to ask that question.

 

...and H-525's can be ordered with a center block (floating or non-floating) to repel feedback like a 535.

 

Can you tell how much I love the basic 525 as the perfect custom build platform? :)

tsp17 Proficient

tsp17

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Just something to note ... the 550 has a longer scale length than a 575 / 576 / 530/ 525 at 25 1/2".

 

OP wanted a G175 like guitar. 175's are 24.75 scale.

 

that is why i went with a 576 instead of 550. Mine also has 550 style hardware. Good call by the original buyer who spec'd it.

 

175's had trapeze tailpieces not stop tailpieces. not all 575, 576, 525's do.

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111518

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Absolutely true that the 550 is not an es175, and I think the scale length, in particular, is a very distinct difference and would make a big difference for a lot of people, and perhaps OP. (I should have though of that --thanks Southpawguy for the addition.) However, all of the laminated heritage guitars mentioned in the thread have substantial points of difference with the 175 --bracing, block or no block, thickness at the rim and depth of arch., bridge mounting and style, tailpiece, relationship between the arch and pickup placement, cutaway, etc., etc.

 

My post was based in large part on my own experience/perception. The 550 was the first Heritage guitar, not only that I owned but even played, after owning (and selling) a Super 400 (gorgeous, but at 18" too big for me to play) and playing a lot of Gibson 17" and 16" solid and lam. archtops. My initial perception of the 550 was that, despite being listed as a 17" guitar and having the multi-piece maple neck and ebony board of a "big" carved archtop, it seemed to me much closer in feel and response to a 175 than to the Gibson/Guild/Ibanez/Epi/etc. 17" guitars I had played. I've always thought of the 550 as a fancy 175: other's perceptions/frames of reference, of course, might be very different.

 

If someone wanting a jazz guitar of manageable size and with some resistance to feedback, asked for recommendations, the 550 would be on my list. Wanted to put it on OP's...

HANGAR18 Experienced

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...and H-525's can be ordered with a center block (floating or non-floating) to repel feedback like a 535.

 

Can you tell how much I love the basic 525 as the perfect custom build platform? :)

That is good to know!

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