koula901 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 At a jam session last weekend, I put my little Blues Jr. up on an amp stand - which I think *really* makes a difference. I think I had the volume only up to about 2 or 3, and I was playing with a drummer and bass player, and it was plenty loud. I think tilting it upwards at an angle does the trick. Anyone else here use an amp stand (or whatever the proper name of it is) and, if so, what brand name do you use? I'd like to buy my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mars_hall Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 When I use one, it is one of these http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=On-Stage+RS7000&_trkparms=65%253A1%257C66%253A2%257C39%253A1&rt=nc&_sticky=1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_sop=15&_sc=1 I still need a cabinet on the floor because the lows are lost decoupling the speaker from the floor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koula901 Posted July 30, 2013 Author Share Posted July 30, 2013 Ah . . that's interesting to keep in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillnetter Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 I have been using one for a couple of years now. I use it stage right from me and not pointed out to the crowd. I run out of the slave jack to the house mixer. Much better control of sound levels. When you have 3 guitar players levels are important. I use a Onstage rs7000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitBlues Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 I had an amp stand, but I found it takes away the bottom end on the Blues Jr. I have instead just started to tilt the amp backwards against the wall. Fender makes shorter legs for an amp like the Blues Jr.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t0aj15 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 I have three of the type Mars showed but the one I use for my small combo I use with the extension arms removed so the amp is tilted but still on the floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koula901 Posted July 30, 2013 Author Share Posted July 30, 2013 I have three of the type Mars showed but the one I use for my small combo I use with the extension arms removed so the amp is tilted but still on the floor. So, do you feel you're preserving the bottom end by having it on the floor? Perhaps they should create amp stands that have a sort of floor/or board on them to preserve the bass end of the tonal spectrum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthpawGuy Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 So, do you feel you're preserving the bottom end by having it on the floor? Perhaps they should create amp stands that have a sort of floor/or board on them to preserve the bass end of the tonal spectrum. There are amp stands like that, if I remember correctly LK155, Lyle, has posted pics of his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobmeyrick Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 I usually use one of these - - minus the beer, of course! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthpawGuy Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 from another thread .... Or, if you have an open-backed combo amp you could build your own stand.Yes, it really does enhance the low frequency content. http://www.heritageownersclub.com/forums/topic/17209-amp-stands/?hl=lk155&do=findComment&comment=221036 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidsmoke Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 there is (was) a stand fabricated by an acquaintance of Schundog's....I've tried to track the guy down. I love the look of it, and the versatility for various sized combos.... Maybe there is a comparable item out there? I'd buy it. http://www.timarastringbenders.com/product_p/vamp.htm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em25G0ulSZw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpuma Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 from another thread .... http://www.heritageownersclub.com/forums/topic/17209-amp-stands/?hl=lk155&do=findComment&comment=221036 This looks awsome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsp17 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 i use a chair, that way i have one less thing the carry to the gig. call me old school, or just lazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t0aj15 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 So, do you feel you're preserving the bottom end by having it on the floor? Perhaps they should create amp stands that have a sort of floor/or board on them to preserve the bass end of the tonal spectrum. Yes it most definitely helps the bottom end and when folded up is very light and easy to transport. Plus there's the fact that you retain the open sound an open back cab provides rather than blocking off the back of the cab with one of the folded horn type stands. To keep from scratching the paint on the amp chassis I simply used weather stripping with a self adhesive strip and stuck it to the face of the uprights on the stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koula901 Posted July 30, 2013 Author Share Posted July 30, 2013 Yes it most definitely helps the bottom end and when folded up is very light and easy to transport. Plus there's the fact that you retain the open sound an open back cab provides rather than blocking off the back of the cab with one of the folded horn type stands. To keep from scratching the paint on the amp chassis I simply used weather stripping with a self adhesive strip and stuck it to the face of the uprights on the stand. great feedback - I wasn't even considering the back end,which my Blue Jr has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
111518 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 I have several stands, of various heights and configurations, but, if I know chairs are available, then, like Tsp17, a chair is my stand of choice. (If our milk or beer came in anything as classy as bobmeyrick pictured, I'd be there.) It is true that an amp has more bottom end on the floor, but, I'm not sure that is always a good thing. (At least in the sort of music I've tended to play). Certainly the most important role of an amp stand is getting the amp closer to, and more directed towards, your ears rather than the back of your legs, but decoupling the cab from the floor focuses the sound and increases separation in a band mix, out of the way of the bass player and the kick and the keyboard player's left hand. (and the bari and 'bones, if you have horns.) The whole coupling idea became particularly clear to me when I was playing bass full time. Sometimes my rig sounded better on the floor, sometimes a lot better if I left the wheels on the cab so it was not coupled with the stage. I found bass sound to be much more influenced by rooms than anything I'd noticed with guitar, and made me much more aware. (Standing waves in room corner setups could sometimes make the bass almost disappear. Very strange phenomenon.) Unfortunately, it seems set up and sound check are always rushed, so, you make a best guess and seldom get to really move things around to test the options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoslate Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 It is true that an amp has more bottom end on the floor, but, I'm not sure that is always a good thing. (At least in the sort of music I've tended to play). Certainly the most important role of an amp stand is getting the amp closer to, and more directed towards, your ears rather than the back of your legs, but decoupling the cab from the floor focuses the sound and increases separation in a band mix, out of the way of the bass player and the kick and the keyboard player's left hand. (and the bari and 'bones, if you have horns.) it seems set up and sound check are always rushed, so, you make a best guess and seldom get to really move things around to test the options. Absolutely concur, Larry. "...sound check.."? I've heard fireside tales of those.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolero Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 I will have a sound enhancer at PSP anyone is welcome to try out, it looks like this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gitfiddler Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 I will have a sound enhancer at PSP anyone is welcome to try out, it looks like this: I've never seen anyone use a Sound Enhancer with a Champ!! Isn't that a sonic oxymoron? But seriously, I'd love to try one of those contraptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRich Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 I went with the Onstage 7000 for my Patriot. It did two things that were really desirable, it gets the sound up so I can hear it, (since my ears aren't near my knees) and it kept the bass from getting too much bloom. I tend to play more quietly since I can really hear what I'm playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iim7v7im7 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 I have three...they. All sound better up and off the floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpuma Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 I have a Mesa single rectifier combo. For me the added benefit would be a better access to the knobs. It drives me crazy that the knob are on the front instead of being on top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuz Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 I went with the Onstage 7000 for my Patriot. It did two things that were really desirable, it gets the sound up so I can hear it, (since my ears aren't near my knees) and it kept the bass from getting too much bloom. I tend to play more quietly since I can really hear what I'm playing. +1 to all of this. Plus I agree that to much bass response and you are lost in the band's mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulk1 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 I used to put mine on the floor, pointed at my knees. Thought that sounded good. Then, for some reason, we started using the drummers gig kit boxes. Really works well. I think it looks kinda cool, too. I think you can see them in this picture. Which is really a thinly disguised excuse to post another pic of the winery gig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthpawGuy Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Lots of cool amps in this thread ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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