Heritage SG?

[SouthpawGuy]

I'm the guy who suggested the 357 with SG spruce wings. The neck through design would eliminate the problems with the SG neck attachment. Marv said he always hated sanding the SG bevels.

We wait, we'll see, not holding breath. Marvs rules.

 

On a similar vein, a neck through SG would be something akin to a Yamaha SG. Although the Yamahas tended to be as heavy as, or heavier than, Les Pauls. Body thickness was about the same as a LP or 150 /157. My SG2000 weighs the same as my 157, 9.4lbs

 

 

 

The Heritage 170 is more comfortable to play at only 7.4lbs.

 

 

 

Both have the front strap button in the same location as a Gibson SG, which can get in the way at times. Neither really feel like an actual SG to play though.

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[Thundersteel]

I didn't think the heels on the 170s were so big!

[SouthpawGuy]

I didn't think the heels on the 170s were so big!

 

Mine's an '86, an earlier one, don't know if the heels on newer ones are as large. It also has a very big control cavity to allow for the four controls, selector switch and mini switches. It's a bit neck heavy like a Gibson SG, possibly because so much wood was removed from the body. I notice the second edition 170s use three controls and a much smaller control cavity.

[Beagle216]

I will upload photo's of the back of my SG when I get home.

[Kuz]

Actually the diferences are more in the heal joint.

 

These pics might be hard to see, but the first is the original heal/neck joint (circa 1961) and the second with the "beefed up" heal joint (circa 1966).

 

Neither one look very stable to me. You actually can see a BIGGER change in where the neck meets the body on first generation Flying Vs verses Second generation Flying Vs.

 

 

[Beagle216]

Actually the diferences are more in the heal joint.

 

These pics might be hard to see, but the first is the original heal/neck joint (circa 1961) and the second with the "beefed up" heal joint (circa 1966).

 

Neither one look very stable to me. You actually can see a BIGGER change in where the neck meets the body on first generation Flying Vs verses Second generation Flying Vs.

 

 

 

 

 

This is EXACTLY what mine looks like. Identical. I know it has a long tenon, but is it a Historic Les Paul SG and that is what it looks like. There is literally no access restriction to any note on the whole fretboard. I really love SG's. But the neck does make me a tad nervous. =)

[SouthpawGuy]

I've had a total of two SGs, a '70s one over twenty years ago and a '97 I currently own. The '70s one had chronic neck dive, really bad, just changing from an open first position chord to anywhere up the neck was a disaster, never could get used to it. The whole guitar would bend with the slightest pressure from the strum hand forearm on the body when playing, it was like playing the bagpipes. Literally everything would go sharp with some forearm pressure. Felt like it was going to snap. It sounded really good but sold it about '90.

 

The current '97 model doesn't suffer from chronic neck dive at all, it's about the same as the 170, plus it has a chunkier neck unlike the '70s one, and it doesn't feel as fragile.

[pressure]

I had a 61' Sg with the sideways vibrato in 1965, my first good guitar. Looks like the photo of the 61' in this thread has had its vibrato removed and replaced with a stoptail. I replaced my vibrato with a trapeze tail piece.