holyroller Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 Has there been any attempt to put heritage guitars on facebook? I think it would be great!
kidsmoke Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 I've thought about this and I'm not so sure. Ultimately, I think it depends on what it is you wish to accomplish with the page. If there was someone at Parsons street who was inclined to post photos, works in progress, notable visitors, 2 foot snowfalls, birthday parties etc, it would be a great thing. There is no one so inclined. They just aren't operating in that vein. As a form of exposure? Without that sort of updating timeline from the source I don't think it would happen. I believe it would simply dilute the discourse of the fans, which happens here so well. As a knowledgeable fan of the product, looking to see pics, talk shop etc,the last thing I want is another place to have to pop in on to avoid missing anything. If they ever add an admin with web access who is encouraged to spend 30 minutes a day posting photos and replying to comments, that would be a great outlet.
mars_hall Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 Advertise, promote or otherwise draw attention to any other web site, message board or online group which does or would compete directly with the Web Site, Things you agreed to not do in the Terms of Use you accepted when you joined the HOC
Guest HRB853370 Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 Advertise, promote or otherwise draw attention to any other web site, message board or online group which does or would compete directly with the Web Site, Things you agreed to not do in the Terms of Use you accepted when you joined the HOC Terms of use? I don't think there was any when I joined.....! But don't sic the HOC attorneys on me!
kidsmoke Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 Advertise, promote or otherwise draw attention to any other web site, message board or online group which does or would compete directly with the Web Site, Things you agreed to not do in the Terms of Use you accepted when you joined the HOC and then there's that....
MartyGrass Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 Advertise, promote or otherwise draw attention to any other web site, message board or online group which does or would compete directly with the Web Site, Things you agreed to not do in the Terms of Use you accepted when you joined the HOC There ain't nothin like this site. No sweat.
holyroller Posted September 5, 2013 Author Posted September 5, 2013 Come on it shouldn't be that big of a deal. Might find some heritage people that don't come on here or have heard of the guitar but never really exposed to them. They are under the radar and alot of guitar players don't know the story and yes there in business making hand made custom guitars one at a time the way they used to be made. Back in the day they weren't custom ,,thats just the way they made them .nowadays with cnc machines making guitars, when a human touches it then they call it a custom. Thats bs!! Heritage a person makes the guitar from start to finish. Now thats the heritage of guitar making at the parson street factory!!!! Ok , i will step off the soap box. Lol
TalismanRich Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 Someone already has "HeritageGuitars" on facebook. There's not any way that I know of to determine who "owns" it, but I don't think it has anything to do with the folks at Heritage, unless it was something that one of the younger folks put up on their own.
PunkKitty Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 Heritage's web site is outdated. If they won't maintain that, what makes you think they will maintain a Facebook account?
holyroller Posted September 5, 2013 Author Posted September 5, 2013 Thats is true. I guess there more about making guitars than other stuff. Sometimes too much work is not a good thing for quality Heritage's web site is outdated. If they won't maintain that, what makes you think they will maintain a Facebook account?
tulk1 Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 Heritage's web site is outdated. If they won't maintain that, what makes you think they will maintain a Facebook account?I always get a good chuckle when someone posts how out of date their website is. You should have seen it before we sorta "shamed " them into updating it a few years back. It was a classic example of a very very early web page built most likely with Netscape!
HANGAR18 Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 I always get a good chuckle when someone posts how out of date their website is. You should have seen it before we sorta "shamed " them into updating it a few years back. It was a classic example of a very very early web page built most likely with Netscape! The current Heritage web site, even with a couple of little flaws here and there, is still WAY BETTER than the previous version.
Gitfiddler Posted September 6, 2013 Posted September 6, 2013 The Heritage website has a vintage mojo...like the fine instruments they make.
chico Posted September 6, 2013 Posted September 6, 2013 Notwithstanding the terms of service agreed to as required to be a member of the HOC (here), anyone can start a FB fan page and collect as many "likes" as they want on Heritage or on any subject. I personally like a related FB page called "save the stack", I.e. the iconic smokestack at parsons st. Before HOC, before FB, there was a yahoo Heritage group (and its still up but not active). After the debut of HOC, the yahoo group came to be a secondary, back up way of communicating if something was wrong with the HOC site Social networking comes in many forms. I belong to this other (nonguitar) site that won't let you link out to YouTube vids, though you can post vid files on their site. I personally like the way this site works.
Kuz Posted September 6, 2013 Posted September 6, 2013 I always get a good chuckle when someone posts how out of date their website is. You should have seen it before we sorta "shamed " them into updating it a few years back. It was a classic example of a very very early web page built most likely with Netscape! +100000000000
Kuz Posted September 6, 2013 Posted September 6, 2013 I thought this was the "Heritage Facebook 'likes' club"???!!!!
SouthpawGuy Posted September 6, 2013 Posted September 6, 2013 I'm not a facebook type of person, I do have an account but it's only to check out info that might not be got elsewhere. I'm still looking for the "dislike" button on there btw
Beagle216 Posted September 6, 2013 Posted September 6, 2013 My opinion- Facebook is not a viable solution for The Heritage. A lot of people are getting sick of all the commercial crap on FB anyways, myself included. I am not a big proponent that Social Media Marketing is powerful, unless you invest in a full time position to just create unique content. If you are pushing the same old crap, people get tired of it. Then the most difficult thing for the business owner becomes: seeing a salary line item every month on their P&L for a Social Media Expert position, then being able to draw a strait line from what they do, creating the unique content/ updating hoot-suite, to real revenue coming in the door to pay for that salary. I don't see The Heritage getting involved like that, and if your not going to jump into the deep end, it is better to not do it at all. This forum is WAY better than any Facebook page could hope to be. Just my two cents FWIW.
SouthpawGuy Posted September 6, 2013 Posted September 6, 2013 .. plus in a few years FB might not be the thing it is right now. These things come and go.
kidsmoke Posted September 6, 2013 Posted September 6, 2013 seeing a salary line item every month on their P&L for a Social Media Expert position, your point is valid, but I don't think that's what's being suggested. Ianother brand that I have a great affinity for has a VERY active facebook page. The owners of the company themselves often post photos and and comment, as well as someone on the staff, who has responsibilities far in addition to social media, who takes a few minutes each day to drop items on there, and links them to the companies twitter account. They have thousands of followers on both sites, as well as a forum like this one, that has a handful...I do mean a handful, of regular contributors. Every now and again, someone will start a thread "look at this guitar they posted on Facebook" and it starts a convo on the forum. The company owner then sometimes chimes in on threads on the forum (like Katy does here) This is not a salaried position. This is an admin, who is 'fluent" in the various mediums, and who takes a few minutes a day to do this. If it increases their visibility even a little, and creates a buzz in general it's well worth it. Relative to the original poster though.....this must come from the company....not a fan.
Beagle216 Posted September 6, 2013 Posted September 6, 2013 your point is valid, but I don't think that's what's being suggested. Ianother brand that I have a great affinity for has a VERY active facebook page. The owners of the company themselves often post photos and and comment, as well as someone on the staff, who has responsibilities far in addition to social media, who takes a few minutes each day to drop items on there, and links them to the companies twitter account. They have thousands of followers on both sites, as well as a forum like this one, that has a handful...I do mean a handful, of regular contributors. Every now and again, someone will start a thread "look at this guitar they posted on Facebook" and it starts a convo on the forum. The company owner then sometimes chimes in on threads on the forum (like Katy does here) This is not a salaried position. This is an admin, who is 'fluent" in the various mediums, and who takes a few minutes a day to do this. If it increases their visibility even a little, and creates a buzz in general it's well worth it. Relative to the original poster though.....this must come from the company....not a fan. I hear ya. If you have someone willing to invest the time and effort, it can work. A lot of times that means finding someone to do that, either internally or outside the company. To your point, I don't see them doing that. At least not anytime soon. Start with fixing/ updating the website before directing more traffic there! Who knows though.
Dandownunder Posted September 7, 2013 Posted September 7, 2013 Brent and I are members of the 'Heritage Guitar owners' group on Facebook. It's been around for ages.
HANGAR18 Posted September 7, 2013 Posted September 7, 2013 Brent and I are members of the 'Heritage Guitar owners' group on Facebook. It's been around for ages. A handful of others too. Fan sites or fan pages on free-for-all web sites are not unusual. There are times when one particular fan of (insert subject here) will rise up from among all the other fans to manufacture their own fan site or social media page or online social group etc. because the entity for which they are so fond of hasn't provided the supporting content that genuine fanatics would crave. For example, I knew a girl a long time ago (a coworker) who was a huge fan of Olympic ice skater Nancy Kerrigan, a true fanatic. So she formed her own fan site and posted all kinds of information about Nancy Kerrigan that you just couldn't get from any other source. She did such a good job posting news, information and insider information that Nancy Kerrigan declared my co-worker's unofficial web site to be her official web site. (This is not longer the case today; I'm just telling the story.) At the time, it made complete sense for Nancy Kerrigan to let this superfan of hers become her official media outlet. Just become someone is famous, doesn't automatically mean that they are rich, web sites cost money and are time consuming to maintain, and realizing that she had a superfan who was willing to handle all of that at no cost to her, it was a no-brainer. I am quite familiar with a couple of Heritage guitar Facebook fan pages and one fan site. Who knows how many there are out there? As I said before, it is not unusual for these things to pop up from time to time. Web sites are expensive and celebrities, companies and organizations are always trying to figure out ways to keep their costs low for such things like web sites or advertising. I am awestruck by this HOC web site! I think it qualifies as a fan site, but not only that, it's HUGE and it takes a team of dedicated individuals to run the thing. I'm sure I would hate to see the monthly web hosting bill for this site that someone has to pay for out of their own pocket for the benefit of all of us! I can't imagine the official Heritage Guitar web site getting much more elaborate than it is at present due to the previously stated cost of such things, but I can very well imagine one or more fan sites coming into existence where individuals with informative or unique content to contribute can make up the difference, making content available on the web which the company can't afford the time or expense to provide on their own. This web site is a perfect example of that, specializing in one particular form of content, specifically an abundance of technical knowledge from experienced Heritage guitar owners (the ol' crowd sourcing routine). Other fan sites perhaps could come up with different kinds of unique Heritage Guitar content. I read here in another thread where someone wanted one of those online guitar builder toys to play with. Those are cool! if I knew how to do programing, I would invent one of those for Heritage guitars and post if on a fan site. Anyway, I guess my point is that I think fan sites and social media pages are important for celebrities, businesses and organizations. But the trick is of course, having these things at little to no cost to the celebrities, businesses and organizations.
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