Teeky Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 I thought it was about time to create some small logbooks for the Heritages to track string changes, luthier visits, mods and so on. On the first page I note the important facts - the model, pickup details, serial number, vendor, purchase price and date. I thought I would decode the manufactured date and include that alongside the serial number, W21001. This works out as (365 - 210 = 155) June 4th 2006 (and the first completed that day). This day turns out to be a Sunday. Is this correct? Or have I worked it out incorrectly? Has anyone else ever discovered a manufacture day of Sunday (or Saturday) upon decoding their serial number?
HANGAR18 Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 No. Must be an error in the algorithm or elsewhere.
Teeky Posted October 11, 2013 Author Posted October 11, 2013 Right, that's encouraging if Sunday is wrong. But where's it gone wrong? The algorithm is straightforward enough. I even thought ah it would be different for a Leap Year, but 2006 wasn't. I'm baffled. Could it have been worked out wrong at the factory?
Kuz Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 They work 7AM-3:30PM M-TR EST They are closed Fri, Sat, Sun.
Teeky Posted October 11, 2013 Author Posted October 11, 2013 That proves that they are real artisans and not like robots! I wonder what the work ethic is in G land?
Kuz Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 About 7 years ago they stopped working on Fridays to reduce costs and because the demand just didn't justify it. But yes, they get their early coffee and get a cracking.
HANGAR18 Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 I hear that sometimes they don't even work on weekdays if it is deer season.
Kuz Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 I hear that sometimes they don't even work on weekdays if it is deer season. Not during "shotgun" deer season, and off for two week correlating with July 4. A man (and a woman) need to fish as well!!!
Guest HRB853370 Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 Not during "shotgun" deer season, and off for two week correlating with July 4. A man (and a woman) need to fish as well!!! Wow, how do they keep the "union" out!!!
DetroitBlues Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 I think it's more or less a human error... Worst things have happened I'm sure.....
Kuz Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 I think it's more or less a human error... Worst things have happened I'm sure..... Huh????
Kuz Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 Wow, how do they keep the "union" out!!! A union for 10 people??? I think they are just glad they have a job for now.
Beagle216 Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 I think it's more or less a human error... Worst things have happened I'm sure..... Huh???? I think he was referring to the original question about the serial number. Probably just an error. Yours was either made that Friday or that Monday. Somebody just forgot what day it was or didn't advance the stamp far enough when they came to work Monday. =)
HANGAR18 Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 I thought it was about time to create some small logbooks for the Heritages to track string changes, luthier visits, mods and so on. On the first page I note the important facts - the model, pickup details, serial number, vendor, purchase price and date. I thought I would decode the manufactured date and include that alongside the serial number, W21001. This works out as (365 - 210 = 155) June 4th 2006 (and the first completed that day). This day turns out to be a Sunday. Is this correct? Or have I worked it out incorrectly? Has anyone else ever discovered a manufacture day of Sunday (or Saturday) upon decoding their serial number? Can you upload a very good photo of the back of the headstock so we can get a good look at the actual serial number as it appears there? I seem to remember buying a Heritage guitar one time where it was listed as being really old but then upon re-examining the serial number more closely, it turned out that the first letter character was actually a different letter than what we originally thought it was. As a result, the guitar I bought turned out to be a lot newer than what I thought it was. (I don't remember which guitar.) The stamps they used at the factory would get a slittle smudgy and hard to read at times so if we all get to look at the S# for ourselves, perhaps we will interpret the number differently. (I'd also like to see the back of the neck at the 3rd fret area too.)
Teeky Posted October 11, 2013 Author Posted October 11, 2013 I think he was referring to the original question about the serial number. Probably just an error. Yours was either made that Friday or that Monday. Somebody just forgot what day it was or didn't advance the stamp far enough when they came to work Monday. =) Thanks Beagle216, that's a good logical argument about the stamp being not set correctly. Hangar18, yup I'll get some pics up soon. (I did check against the inside label as well).
MartyGrass Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 There are some folks at Heritage on Fridays working. It's not an official factory day though. I'd check the label SN with the headstock to see if there is a discrepancy. I would be more surprised if the headstock was wrong than the label. Isn't there a Heritage policy that if your SN is incorrect, you get a free guitar of your choosing?
PunkKitty Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 I used to have a H170 that supposedly was finished on December 31, 1985. I can't see the factory working on NYE. I had another one that traced back to being finished on a Sunday. Serial number anomalies happen.
Teeky Posted October 11, 2013 Author Posted October 11, 2013 Can you upload a very good photo of the back of the headstock so we can get a good look at the actual serial number as it appears there? I seem to remember buying a Heritage guitar one time where it was listed as being really old but then upon re-examining the serial number more closely, it turned out that the first letter character was actually a different letter than what we originally thought it was. As a result, the guitar I bought turned out to be a lot newer than what I thought it was. (I don't remember which guitar.) The stamps they used at the factory would get a slittle smudgy and hard to read at times so if we all get to look at the S# for ourselves, perhaps we will interpret the number differently. (I'd also like to see the back of the neck at the 3rd fret area too.) Here you go. Photos of back of headstock, back of neck at 3rd fret???, and inside label.
rockabilly69 Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 A union for 10 people??? I think they are just glad they have a job for now. That's how I feel all the time!!!
HANGAR18 Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 Here you go. Photos of back of headstock, IMAG0678.jpg back of neck at 3rd fret???,IMAG0684.jpg and inside label. Image2.jpg Hmm, that's interesting. I know the sticker says W for the year but what if the first character on the headstock is actually a V (2005) instead of a W (2006)? What day does the date of manufacture fall on if the year V is used? Maybe the person who wrote the serial number by hand made a mistake when looking at the squishy stamp on the headstock. That first character looks more like a V to me than a W.
Teeky Posted October 11, 2013 Author Posted October 11, 2013 Right, for year V, the 155th day is June 4, 2005 which is a Saturday. So that's not a solution. I have another Heritage with a W year and that is clearer but still pretty squished up. It must just be the way the stamp is made. OK, I give up. What gives with the back of the neck around the 3rd fret?
H Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 OK, I give up. What gives with the back of the neck around the 3rd fret? Three is a magic number. Yes it is, yes it is
LK155 Posted October 12, 2013 Posted October 12, 2013 Here's what a 'W' looks like when you can actually read it.... Any chance that serial number starts with an 'N'? Edit....OK, sorry, just looked at pic of the label serial number....definitely a 'W'.
TalismanRich Posted October 12, 2013 Posted October 12, 2013 I doubt that they would mistakenly do a W on the label during the year V. Its not like they alternate. 210 days would be months into a year, and they would know they would be doing all Ws. I'm guessing a mistake in the numbering. That could be done very easily... just look at the wrong day on the calendar.
StephenK Posted October 12, 2013 Posted October 12, 2013 Come on, does it really matter? How it plays and feels is all that counts?
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