DetroitBlues Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 I really love the tones I'm getting from my old Traynor. But I'm thinking about getting another amp I can gig with... Here's what's on my radar.... Marshall DSL-40 Combo Marshall DSL-15 head and multi speaker cab Vox AC-15 2x12 (yes, they started making them) Vox AC-15 Handwired Vox AC-30 Handwired Egnator 30 combo Tech21 Trademark 60 Heritage Revolution 45 watt head and matching 2x12 All of these are available to me, but some are expensive enough I'd have to sell the Traynor. I wanted to keep the wattage around 30 and nothing bigger than a 2x12 config. The Marshall's and the Heritage will support local businesses, everything else is probably a Sweetwater or Guitar Denter find... Which of these amps would you use for blues and classic rock?
Guest HRB853370 Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 I'd use a Peavey Delta Blues, I know nothing about the others you mentioned. Too heavy for you though, right?
Vanschoyck Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 Is weight an issue for you? There's a few amps I'd love to have but carrying them around is no longer practical for me. 40'ish pounds or so is about all I want to deal with. It cuts down my options mightily.
DetroitBlues Posted November 27, 2013 Author Posted November 27, 2013 I'd use a Peavey Delta Blues, I know nothing about the others you mentioned. Too heavy for you though, right? It also starting acting up.... Tremolo worked when it wanted to. I liked it but I worry about Peavey's reliability...
PunkKitty Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 Look for someone selling a hand wired 5e3. I bought a Weber that someone built a few weeks ago. I love this amp. And it's loud as hell.
schundog Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 All cool choices. However, Vox AC30: 71 pounds! Fine if I'm leaving it somewhere all the time, but I'd hate to load it in and out. Even the AC15's are heavier than you would imagine, same goes for any Marshall combo I've hauled. Not deal breakers, but things to consider. You liked the Blues Junior idea for awhile, no love anymore? I was just getting very righteous tone out of my Peavey Classic 30 that's at least 10 years old (speaker change to a Weber Blue Dog, JJ tubes), and I don't believe they are any more or less reliable than other PCB stuff on the market. Don't believe everything you read on the innerwebs, Josh, including THIS, haha. I have to agree with Monica, and you KNOW it's calling you; have Brian make you a handwired 5E3 and keep it. Or another KBP810 Reverb Deluxe. Either would be great choices. Or what about your old Marshall 18 Watt clone your friend wants to sell? Wouldn't that be plenty loud enough? Good luck!
DetroitBlues Posted November 27, 2013 Author Posted November 27, 2013 All cool choices. However, Vox AC30: 71 pounds! Fine if I'm leaving it somewhere all the time, but I'd hate to load it in and out. Even the AC15's are heavier than you would imagine, same goes for any Marshall combo I've hauled. Not deal breakers, but things to consider. You liked the Blues Junior idea for awhile, no love anymore? I was just getting very righteous tone out of my Peavey Classic 30 that's at least 10 years old (speaker change to a Weber Blue Dog, JJ tubes), and I don't believe they are any more or less reliable than other PCB stuff on the market. Don't believe everything you read on the innerwebs, Josh, including THIS, haha. I have to agree with Monica, and you KNOW it's calling you; have Brian make you a handwired 5E3 and keep it. Or another KBP810 Reverb Deluxe. Either would be great choices. Or what about your old Marshall 18 Watt clone your friend wants to sell? Wouldn't that be plenty loud enough? Good luck! I've thought about asking Brian a favor again... But with a newborn and such, I don't want to bother him... One thing about the 5E3 and the 18watt... No Reverb....
schundog Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 I've thought about asking Brian a favor again... But with a newborn and such, I don't want to bother him... One thing about the 5E3 and the 18watt... No Reverb.... Please tell him I said "Hello" when you talk to him again, and I hope all's going great with the little one. Like he told me when I asked him if he could put Reverb in the 5E3 circuit he built for me; "I suppose I COULD, but I don't know where I'd put the extra knob, and frankly, it doesn't NEED it, and I don't miss having it on mine." As far as I'm concerned, he was right. It's a cop-out, but there are always Reverb/Delay pedals. Plus, for whatever reason, I find myself using quick delays more than reverb these days when I want it a little wetter.
PunkKitty Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 I use a reverb pedal. It does the job. You could ask him to build a Princeton Reverb clone with a 12 inch speaker.
koula901 Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 I'd go with a used Blues Jr. I've seen so many bands use this to gig blues and classic rock gigs at small and medium sized clubs, they sound great and they're light. and as you know, there are many Bill M mods u can do to change them. There are a few pretty long threads in this forum where many people have put in their 2 cents on the FB Jr and sang their praises. I love mine, bought used, I think I paid $150 and another $50 for some minor changes. \
H Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 If you have the option of a KBP amp at some point, I'd suggest a Deluxe Reverb: loud enough, good cleans, breakup at a sensible point, takes pedals well. From your list, the handwired AC15 would be my choice for a lot of the reasons above. Totally different noise though and absolute joy to these English ears
smokedtires Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 If weight is a consideration, why not look at head/cab with 1x12 or2x12? All your choices are combos which makes it also a bit tougher depending on what your stuffing them into for traveling. Hand wired are always intriguing!
JeffB Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 Any of the amps in your list is what I would use for blues and classic rock. I would also use a Dual Rec or a Mark I, II, III, IV and V for blues and classic rock plus a host of other amps. Any of the amps you have already had would be good for Blues and classic rock The AC15HW is a pretty good amp. If 'you" like it.
smokedtires Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 How are your soldering skills? I have no experience with this, but looks like a neat project: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Deluxe-TWEED-DELUXE-5E3-Guitar-Amp-Tube-Amplifier-Kit-DIY-Multicomp-TRW-/130984250617?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e7f450cf9 There are some youtube videos on it as well.
Guest HRB853370 Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 I've thought about asking Brian a favor again... But with a newborn and such, I don't want to bother him... One thing about the 5E3 and the 18watt... No Reverb.... Hell, he has already taught the little tyke to solder! I already have something in the works for him come spring. I am sure Brian or myself would sell you our 5E3 amps for the right price, ha ha. +1 on using a reverb footswitch or get an outboard spring reverb.
Steiner Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 Of those you list, the AC 15 and the Heritage stand out ( the AC 30 does too but I have that covered). I don't know any blues players that use Vox - there's probably a reason for that. I bet that Heritage is a righteous, pedal friendly amp. Have you tried borrowing / renting it?
davesultra Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 I'd get the handwired AC15. But don't discount the Tech21 either. Great sound and very lightweight.
DetroitBlues Posted November 27, 2013 Author Posted November 27, 2013 If you have the option of a KBP amp at some point, I'd suggest a Deluxe Reverb: loud enough, good cleans, breakup at a sensible point, takes pedals well. From your list, the handwired AC15 would be my choice for a lot of the reasons above. Totally different noise though and absolute joy to these English ears I've found a Bassman like design as my favorite to which the Marshall, Vox, and Traynor are based on....
tulk1 Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 I've found a Bassman like design as my favorite to which the Marshall, Vox, and Traynor are based on.... Vox? I'd call Vox amps anything BUT Bassman or Marshall like. No clue about the Traynor, never cared for them.
DetroitBlues Posted November 27, 2013 Author Posted November 27, 2013 Vox? I'd call Vox amps anything BUT Bassman or Marshall like. No clue about the Traynor, never cared for them. The power tube output section.... Traynor, for lack of better description basically clones Fender amps but tweaks them for EL34/84 tubes instead.... At least the original ones.... The newer ones I didn't care for.
dbetts41 Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 Look for someone selling a hand wired 5e3. I bought a Weber that someone built a few weeks ago. I love this amp. And it's loud as hell. +1
dbetts41 Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 Here is a blues jr with a cabinet & speaker mod....
koula901 Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 yeah baby! I wish that guy would get a stand for his guitar.
DetroitBlues Posted November 27, 2013 Author Posted November 27, 2013 I had a BillM Modded Blues Jr. Great amp. Needed a bigger cab though.
Hfan Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 I had a BillM Modded Blues Jr. Great amp. Needed a bigger cab though. I did most of Bill's mods to mine, did them one at a time, had the chassis out so many times that the ribbon cables failed. Had to install straight wire. I love the amp for low volume playing. I'd love to hear it with an extra speaker. Have an old blackfaced Twin and a Reverb Deluxe that don't get used.
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