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I went to polish her up the day after a gig and found this:

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And:

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Not the best pics but the big one is at the top rim on the back.

I've played over thirty years and none of my axes have ever gotten a ding that large. Even my 73 S-G that went through hell and back. (Who fan)

I'm wondering in this might have a bad paint job. I say this because when I bought it the finish was touched up around the F holes. I figured it got hacked it up trying to do the PUP and wiring upgrades. But since this chunk just came off plus the smaller one I'm now starting to question the paint job. Obviously it's not the end of the world but it certainly kills some of it's value.

 

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Unusual...how old is the guitar

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Just random thoughts, but you said this was after a gig. Did it go through some quick temperature variations? As cold as it is, I think if the guitar had gotten cold outside, was brought in and the case opened before being acclimated, it could affect the wood and paint. Just speculation, though.

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that is weird it almost looks like an air pocket developed under the finish & then flaked off

 

how old is the gtr? I'm not trying to defend Heritage, but if it's a few years old I'm surprised a finish flaw would take that long to reveal itself? but I am far from an expert!

 

agree with tsp it could be related to quick temp change? although traditionally extreme cold-->warm results in finish checking, not popping off

Guest HRB853370
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Very sorry to see this. It is a 2005 model and I owned this guitar for 2 years and can attest with certainty that there was zero flaws in the factory paint job. Yes, there was a touch up job by the former owner near the bottom F hole where he nicked the paint when he installed the Mojotone wiring, however, the backside of that guitar was perfect-the finish was as good as I have seen on any Heritage. My guess is you rubbed it against something and just scraped off the finish somehow, as odd as it seems. You didn't set it on a drum stool like Bolero likes to do did you? Did you use a guitar stand or did you just leave it leaning up against something? (by the way, I won't exercise my buy back option now!)

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Those don't at all look like nitro burns.

 

Rapid warming usually causes checking and crazing.

 

These areas look like chipping. I've never seen that arise spontaneously.

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You didn't set it on a drum stool like Bolero likes to do did you? Did you use a guitar stand or did you just leave it leaning up against something? (by the way, I won't exercise my buy back option now!)

 

Hilarious!

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It's deeper than the clear coat.

 

Cherry is pretty easy to repair. But the real questions are what happened and will it likely happen some more?

Posted

Doesn't look like a chip to me...did you find any red residue in the case?

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Doesn't look like a chip to me...did you find any red residue in the case?

 

The irregularity of the patch and the crisp borders suggest a chip of finish is missing. Running a finger across the area will tell if there is a depression c/w a chip there.

 

CSI informs us that the blood splatter pattern tells all!

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Acid sweat? No that would leave paisley swirls and rainbow spirals. This looks more like alcohol sweat.

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(by the way, I won't exercise my buy back option now!)

Yeah I gathered that when you didnt want to buy it back lol!

 

Except for the area around the F holes this axe was in great condition. Which surprises me that this happened so soon. I dont baby my guitars, this one has probably been out in the clubs at least once or twice a week since I got it. But I dont beat them by any means.

 

I guess a better question is how do I stop this from spreading? Clear nail polish?

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I'm wondering how the dime got stuck to the guitar. :icon_colors:

Try matching the color to some red nail polish. First spread it on a piece of cardboard and let it dry so you can tell what it looks like after it dries.

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Yeah I gathered that when you didnt want to buy it back lol!

 

Except for the area around the F holes this axe was in great condition. Which surprises me that this happened so soon. I dont baby my guitars, this one has probably been out in the clubs at least once or twice a week since I got it. But I dont beat them by any means.

 

I guess a better question is how do I stop this from spreading? Clear nail polish?

Call Ren at Heritage. He may be able to advise you.

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I'm wondering how the dime got stuck to the guitar. :icon_colors:

 

Try matching the color to some red nail polish. First spread it on a piece of cardboard and let it dry so you can tell what it looks like after it dries.

That dime was my pay for the last gig I played!.

 

Maybe I'll try the red nail polish. I'm sure my daughter has some. She has every color imaginable.... It will be a good father daughter activity....

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That dime was my pay for the last gig I played!.

 

Maybe I'll try the red nail polish. I'm sure my daughter has some. She has every color imaginable.... It will be a good father daughter activity....

 

I believe you are at an important juncture. If it is important to you to have your guitar look as pristine as possible, keep the nail polish away. If you don't mind the worn look, go ahead.

 

If the problem is simply a few areas of bad paint, it's not hard to strip the back and match the cherry. I'll bet that would cost $100.

 

What concerns me is that the front needed some touch up, too. That makes me wonder if the guitar was sprayed with crappy NCL or perhaps the humidity was too high. I saw that the top damage was attributed to some f hole work. While a good finish can suffer noticeable damage mucking around with a harness change, it is pretty fricking uncommon. Even a klutz like me hasn't had that happen.

 

If you want Ren's opinion you can contact him via email. But you'll need high resolution photos, a tactile description of the area, and details of the circumstances around the time of "the occurrence". Otherwise there's a good chance he'll just email you back asking for that info. He still may say he needs to see the guitar.

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