Davec629 Posted February 8, 2014 Posted February 8, 2014 For those trying to trim a little weight off their guitars, try changing the tuners. I'm trying a set of Hipshot locking tuners. My original tuners were slipping a bit. My guitar went from 7.77 to 7.30 pounds. It wasn't a back breaker to begin with but I thought I would pass it along.
RhoadsScholar Posted February 8, 2014 Posted February 8, 2014 Wow, thanks for the tip. That is quite promising !
Davec629 Posted February 8, 2014 Author Posted February 8, 2014 The non locking version, I believe, is about 2 ounces lighter then the locking version.
Kuz Posted February 8, 2014 Posted February 8, 2014 One bit of advice in changing weight in the headstock. Wolf notes or dead spots can be generated by changing the weight of the headstock. Changing the weight will change the fundamental frequency of where the neck vibrates. I have personally had this happen to me. I have posted links from luthers about this. If you experince a deadness, a choking of notes, or lack of sustain in notes usually around the 10-14th fret on usually the G string (but I would check all strings at these frets), then return the guitar back to defult status. Personally, I never chang the weight on the headstock.
RhoadsScholar Posted February 8, 2014 Posted February 8, 2014 One bit of advice in changing weight in the headstock. Wolf notes or dead spots can be generated by changing the weight of the headstock. Changing the weight will change the fundamental frequency of where the neck vibrates. I have personally had this happen to me. I have posted links from luthers about this. If you experince a deadness, a choking of notes, or lack of sustain in notes usually around the 10-14th fret on usually the G string (but I would check all strings at these frets), then return the guitar back to defult status. Personally, I never chang the weight on the headstock. Thanks for sharing that observation Kuz, I will have to keep that in mind....
Davec629 Posted February 8, 2014 Author Posted February 8, 2014 I haven't had that problem with this guitar (dead spots, etc.) I have had bass guitars develop dead spots with certain string brands. I would be interested in knowing what brand/ style you changed to that caused your problems.
Kuz Posted February 8, 2014 Posted February 8, 2014 It wasn't the strings. Strings don't cause a choking of the fundament note and a almost complete lack of sustain. It is caused by either not having the correct mass of the headstock when the guitar was made, or by changing the mass of the headstock from a guitar that didn't have the problem originally.
jimsoloway Posted February 8, 2014 Posted February 8, 2014 We used the Hipshot locking tuners on about 250 guitars. By far my favorite tuners (and the tuners on my new long scale 575)
pressure Posted February 8, 2014 Posted February 8, 2014 Thus adding another variable to a new guitar build using parts that have never been used on a particular guitar model. As I have always said with a new build there's no way to know what the finished instrument will sound like until it's done.
Davec629 Posted February 8, 2014 Author Posted February 8, 2014 I wasn't suggesting that was your problem, just the problem I had with my bass.
jimsoloway Posted February 9, 2014 Posted February 9, 2014 Thus adding another variable to a new guitar build using parts that have never been used on a particular guitar model. As I have always said with a new build there's no way to know what the finished instrument will sound like until it's done. Given that I added a 25.5" scale length, I would say that the tuners are the least of the mysteries. On the other hand, I've been involved in over 400 custom builds so I'm not really bothered by not knowing all that much.
Davec629 Posted February 9, 2014 Author Posted February 9, 2014 How much does the scale length contribute to the over all tone of a guitar. If Fender and Gibson had started out with each others scale lengths.
jimsoloway Posted February 9, 2014 Posted February 9, 2014 How much does the scale length contribute to the over all tone of a guitar. If Fender and Gibson had started out with each others scale lengths. Enormous. We built guitars in three different scale lengths and the difference was huge. And in the case of my 575 build, I'll be tuning it down to C#. I couldn't do that with a 24.75" scale length and her enough tension to even make it playable.
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