pushover Posted October 9, 2008 Posted October 9, 2008 Imagine you are hired by Heritage to help them design their new line of guitars. They'll want a rock and roll machine, blues box, and jazz box, and obviously they'll have diifferent qualities to them. Pick one, pick all.. draw a picture, get out photo-shop, or just describe it. Eiether way, if you were able to get Heritage to make your "perfect" killer guitar what would it be, and would it be different than what they already build.
Gitfiddler Posted October 9, 2008 Posted October 9, 2008 Millenium Deluxe w/Lollar P90's. Single Cutaway Solid Top w/F-Holes Chestnut Burst AAAA Maple Creme Binding Mahogany Neck Fat 50's Neck Profile Split Diagonal 'Super500' Inlays Ebony Fretboard Gold Hardware (TonePros) 8)
fxdx99 Posted October 9, 2008 Posted October 9, 2008 Fun post - guess it wouldn't be any different for the most part. Can already customize existing models and for rock they have the 150/157/170, for blues the 535/555/525, for jazz a number of thick body models with the entire line wonderous works or art and tone machines. So, what would 'new' be?... a slight modification to existing (P90 models for example) or totally new (such as the 110 model)? They've not had great success on the single coil models (strat/tele like) and as much as I'd LOVE to buy a Heritage 'tele', not sure that a model like that would be a big success across the market. I guess in the end, I'd tell the guy that hired me that "you hired the wrong guy - you don't need a designer, you need Marketing resource"... (but not until I'd given them the tele-like model design ;D
jerrysleftyguitars Posted October 9, 2008 Posted October 9, 2008 Being a dealer (for only a year though), this is something I'm always interested in. Did Gibson (Les Paul, 335) and Fender (Tele, Strat) get it perfect right out of the box? The shapes have not changed. I think of Harley/Davidson and the awful designs (hardtail, every motor until recently, etc.) that were state of the art many decades ago that just hung on. And on. And on. I think Italian bikes are better (Ducati, Agusta) and Japanese bikes are better, even English bikes are better. So did Gibson get it right? Am I like the those Harley guys who are clinging to old technology, old designs, pure nostalgia? Is my love of Heritage guitars based on nostalgia? I just don't know. Jackson, Charvel, Ibanez, etc., do nothing for me. I do like Suhr and Anderson much more than Fenders, but admit to being drawn to their "copies" more than their original shapes.
Spectrum13 Posted October 9, 2008 Posted October 9, 2008 Millenium Deluxe with P90s super 400 inlays, rosewood boards, nickel (locking) tonepro hardware. Single & double cut with toggle on the bass side. Outside of the Heritage site and this forum - who knows about the semi-solid body (made by the guys that make copies of a Gipsum)s new design already out? Easier said then done my friends... what pushover fails to understand... ;D
LH575 Posted October 9, 2008 Posted October 9, 2008 I'd put the liberty bell tailpiece on EVERYTHING! :afro:
ingeneri Posted October 9, 2008 Posted October 9, 2008 If you guys think there's little innovation in solid bodies, check out archtops. However, I prefer that Heritage focus on what it does best and not start trying to imitate D'aquistos. Just in case anyone from K-zoo is reading: a production 575 Custom with P-90s and bring back the Johnny Smith model/endorsement now that Guild/Benedetto has folded. If looking for ideas for a totally new model, maybe they could design an airline freindly laminate like the Sadowsky Jimmy Bruno? Those always seem sold out. Not a model but: fix the website and maybe add a direct order option?
Gitfiddler Posted October 9, 2008 Posted October 9, 2008 I'd put the liberty bell tailpiece on EVERYTHING! :afro: HaHaHaHaHa!!!!!! ;D
Kuz Posted October 9, 2008 Posted October 9, 2008 The BrentRocks Signature model! and some crappy old 535 (why would anyone want to sell a bunch of gear to get a crappy Gibby copy in Vintage Wine Burst, Argh..) guitar complete copy.jpg guitar complete copy.jpg_thumb H535Body_P90.jpg H535Body_P90.jpg_thumb
pushover Posted October 9, 2008 Author Posted October 9, 2008 Alright.. I'll throw myself to the lions, and put out a design that I find visually appealing. By definition most of you will hate it.. and that's o.k.. (do something better then.. ). Also.. I'm sure I must be knocking off someone elses design and you can probably already buy something that looks close to this, but I don't know what that might be off the top of my head. So if I'm stealing someone elses design, sorry, it's not intentional (but there's really only so much you can do with a basic guitar shape.) I don't have the drawing right tools to do this properly, so forgive the rather shoddy art work. I also probably don't have the scale right, but my intention is for this to be a little on the "smaller" side (smaller than an LP). This might actually show up as scale between the neck and the rest, but use your imagination. I specifically wanted to go for something closer to an accoustic shape, with softer curves, and my thought is that it would actually be a semi-acoustic, though it could easily be a solid body also. Semi-acoustics seem to be the most versitle so I foolishly attempted to be different and tried to put a sound hole in the middle on the off chance that it might actually be possible to do that without violating some critical design constraint. Given modern electronics, it would easily be possible to do all sorts of things electronically from standard PuPs to including something like pizzo bridge pickup, and/or other active pickups to make it be able to sound like whatever you might want it to sound like. Anyway.. as you can see I was sloughing off work, and decided a little fun. Don't worry I'm not taking this very seriously.. < insert fanfare...> Soooo.. Ladies and Germs... Without further adooo.. Introducing the pushover mark 0 guitar. Guit.jpg Guit.jpg_thumb
pushover Posted October 9, 2008 Author Posted October 9, 2008 Looks like Lindsey Buckingham's guitar! Is he still alive? Joking.. Didn't realize he was still making music, but a quick google shows up the pix below. I think you're right.. I't definately similar, though I'd want more access to the upper frets than that. It's a pretty cool guitar though... Definately along the lines I was thinking of.. Who makes that BTW? Is it a custom just for him, or is a production model? I'm sure it's uber expensive either way.. lindsey_buckingham_6.jpg lindsey_buckingham_6.jpg_thumb
LH575 Posted October 9, 2008 Posted October 9, 2008 I think this is the guy http://www.renaissanceguitars.com/
mars_hall Posted October 9, 2008 Posted October 9, 2008 How about an H011? http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i167/stormcrowin/seymour111.jpg[/img]
pushover Posted October 9, 2008 Author Posted October 9, 2008 How about an H011? http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i167/stormcrowin/seymour111.jpg[/img] Kind of like looking at an Escher guitar...
jerrysleftyguitars Posted October 9, 2008 Posted October 9, 2008 Soooo.. Ladies and Germs... Without further adooo.. Introducing the pushover mark 0 guitar. Looks a lot like a Burns Steer cutaway. http://www.donmack.com/BurnsGuitars/SteerCutaway.asp
pushover Posted October 9, 2008 Author Posted October 9, 2008 Looks a lot like a Burns Steer cutaway.http://www.donmack.com/BurnsGuitars/SteerCutaway.asp Somehow the look/shape of the Buckingham guitar seems much closer to what I had in mind. I especially don't like the pincher thing that's happening on that headstock... Not just an instrument.. but a weapon.
big bob Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 like this, only 2 pups and a kahler. pink body 005.jpg pink body 005.jpg_thumb
pushover Posted October 10, 2008 Author Posted October 10, 2008 like this, only 2 pups and a kahler. Don't like it.. the one in the pix looks too complicated to operate
big bob Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 Don't like it.. the one in the pix looks too complicated to operate and a scalopped neck with a tellie head stock!!! that would be bitchen..
High Flying Bird Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 Coz started a similar thread last winter. I proposed a fatter bodied 535 and a hollow firebird with a maple cap, f-holes and either 3 mini humbuckers or 3 p-90s. I will stand by that today.
SouthpawGuy Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 Small bodied reverse Firebird with 3 Lollar P-90s with a 5 way blade switch for out of phase options and ease of use, block inlays, banjo tuners ( locking), MOP "The Heritage" headstock inlay. Available in korina natural, vintage cherry and sunburst. Can I place my order now ? ( in lefty of course)
pro-fusion Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 Well, I play different brands of guitars for different needs, so I don't really want or need Heritage to try and make a better Jackson or Fender design. I like the 110 design, and I'd like to see it extended to an H-117 model with ebony fretboard, blocks and double binding. I'd go a little nuts over that. The 170 is ok, but I like guitars with a larger upper horn that holds a strap pin and balances better. And I'm going to horrify all of you by saying that I'd love one with a Floyd Rose.
OldCrow Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 Well, I play different brands of guitars for different needs, so I don't really want or need Heritage to try and make a better Jackson or Fender design. I like the 110 design, and I'd like to see it extended to an H-117 model with ebony fretboard, blocks and double binding. I'd go a little nuts over that. The 170 is ok, but I like guitars with a larger upper horn that holds a strap pin and balances better. And I'm going to horrify all of you by saying that I'd love one with a Floyd Rose. I am this close to smiting you!
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