Millennium Maestro Posted July 2, 2014 Posted July 2, 2014 I have both, if you are asking just about f holes or no f holes I will start by saying NO holes if you are more intent on Amplified/electric. Just because it will respond my towards the Solid body in characteristic. For me if I am on stage I prefer the solid top, strictly out of aesthetics. I play alot acoustically and at low volumes while the wife sleeps, Love the f holes there. YES the f holes add a touch of elegance, not so much when I am performing Rage against the machine, Chevelle, AIC etc. Wrong vibe but still better than PINK... LOL JK Kuz. - My favorite Millie... 2000 Ltd Ed. w f holes, I am sure TailmanRich would agree. - The Millie I would most like to own Tulks OSB DC Guy ps. You are always welcome to call and bounce ideas off me!
chico Posted July 2, 2014 Posted July 2, 2014 The Heritage Millenium H155 comes without F-holes The Heritage Millenium Ultra (same body as the 155) has f holes That's not to say aberrations don't exist. Heritage is a custom builder, so if you want no f holes, like Tulk specified when he ordered his Millie DC, which ordinarily has f holes like the Ultra.
tbonesullivan Posted July 3, 2014 Posted July 3, 2014 Personally, I like the F-holes. I think it gives the instrument just a bit more air in the sound. On the downside, F-holes are magnets for picks.
mars_hall Posted July 3, 2014 Posted July 3, 2014 Always seemed to me that the F-holes on the Millies were disproportionately large for the body size. If you choose holes, might want to request smaller ones.
HANGAR18 Posted July 3, 2014 Author Posted July 3, 2014 Always seemed to me that the F-holes on the Millies were disproportionately large for the body size. If you choose holes, might want to request smaller ones. This gets me to thinking... Does the f-hole have any impact on the level of difficulty for pickup changes? Maybe it's nothing because I'm guessing that there is a pot access cover on the back, a feature you wouldn't see on a normal hollow-body.
tbonesullivan Posted July 3, 2014 Posted July 3, 2014 Not all Millies have a control cavity on the back. Laminate top and laminate back. Both top AND back are arched. I don't think they do arched backs anymore. Which Millies have the solid tops and which are laminate? Mine is an H-158 "classic"
HANGAR18 Posted July 3, 2014 Author Posted July 3, 2014 Does this sound correct? f-holes= no control cavity no f-hole= control cavity
Millennium Maestro Posted July 3, 2014 Posted July 3, 2014 Does this sound correct? f-holes= no control cavity no f-hole= control cavity NO, Mostly they have back plates especially the 155s
HANGAR18 Posted July 3, 2014 Author Posted July 3, 2014 NO, Mostly they have back plates especially the 155s Aren't they all H155's? Anyway, so what I'm getting at is how in the world would someone be able to service a guitar (replace pots, selector switches and pickups) if you have no f-holes or pot cover on the back?
tulk1 Posted July 3, 2014 Posted July 3, 2014 Ive had Millies with and without f holes. Here is how that goes. Some of the original Millies were arched top and back, like the sample tube man posted. Those were never actual production models, according to Marv. Laminate top and back. Semi hollow. You change pots, etc the usual way ... thru the holes. Marv told me that at the time of those models they tried a few with access plates, but the plates were so large they interfered with the integrity of the back. The production models became flat back, solid top and back. Those, of course have access plates. You wont find an arch back model with an access plate. Nor without f holes. You may find a semi-solid model with or without f holes. But not without an access plate. That's how I recall it all.
Spectrum13 Posted July 3, 2014 Posted July 3, 2014 Ive had Millies with and without f holes. Here is how that goes. Some of the original Millies were arched top and back, like the sample tube man posted. Those were never actual production models, according to Marv. Laminate top and back. Semi hollow. You change pots, etc the usual way ... thru the holes. Marv told me that at the time of those models they tried a few with access plates, but the plates were so large they interfered with the integrity of the back. The production models became flat back, solid top and back. Those, of course have access plates. You wont find an arch back model with an access plate. Nor without f holes. You may find a semi-solid model with or without f holes. But not without an access plate. That's how I recall it all. And then we have Pressure's solid spruce top without f holes or a black plate.
pressure Posted July 3, 2014 Posted July 3, 2014 No f-holes, no back-plate = pain to change electric parts or at least thats what Chip at the Music Gallery said after he replaced the electrics with a full RS guitarworks kit.
tbonesullivan Posted July 4, 2014 Posted July 4, 2014 Yeah, you really have no way around it except for "fishing", and everything has to be put in through the pickup route with no F hole to view it or mess with it if you need to. My H-158 is from 2005. When did they start producing the millennium models? 2000?
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