rockabilly69 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Here's sample acoustic guitar recording of my new mic setup. Listen with phones or bigger speakers as it's all about the low-end:) Guitar was my Nowland SJ James. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redsand Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 This is AWESOME on all levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoslate Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Wonderfully musical, as usual, Daniel. Love the changes. To my ears, a "quiet" recording, but one in which the subtlety of the instruments (slide noise and harmonics, overtones, sustain) isn't lost at all. Sounds very balanced to me. After your caveat, I thought it might be a bit boomy. Not at all! How'd you set the mics up, relative to the guitar(s)? Another swell post! Thanks.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanschoyck Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Well, for what it's worth, I'd be very pleased with that sound. I listened to it about a half hour ago and I still have that melody stuck in my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockabilly69 Posted November 12, 2014 Author Share Posted November 12, 2014 Rob, you hit my recording ethic on the head. I'm trying to get "quiet recording" where nothing is hyped. The low end typically gets exaggerated when you get close enough in to get the little extra things coming off of the guitar (slide noises, etc). That's what I meant when I said it's all about the low-end, in other words, it's not exaggerated, but more what I hear when I sit and play my guitar at home (100 year old house with high ceilings). I've got all my guitars where I want them, so I shifted focus and started listening closely to different microphones. My favorite microphone set up for recording acoustic guitar is M/S (mid-side). For M/S recoding you use a figure 8 microphone pointing left and right, and one cardoid (sometimes you can get away with an omnidirectional) microphone pointing right at the source. The capsules of the microphones are lined up right on top of each other and equidistant to the source. For a starting point I generally point them at the neck joint of the guitar. Then I close my eyes and move my guitar around while playing until I hear what I want to hear in my headphones. Then I hit record. After recording the two tracks, you clone the one figure 8 microphone track, and flip the phase of the new cloned track. You now have 3 tracks (fig 8 track, cloned fig 8 track, mid track). You then then pan the original fig 8 track hard left, and the cloned track hard right. The mid track in panned directly center. In the mix you bring up the sides till they balance with the center track. The soundstage of M/S recording sounds very natural to me and very open. The Rode Classic II was the mid mic set to one-click away from cardoid (towards omni), and the Neumann u89 as the side mic set to Fig 8. I used my stereo Drawmer 1960 pre/comp for both microphones, and each channel was set to 4:1 compression with a fast attack, and med release. For the slide track I just used the the Rode Classic II, and cloned that track. I panned each one of those about 50% left and right. I also used a Waves R-Comp compressor and a PuigTech EQ plug-in on these two channels. Over the whole mix I used a Slate Digital VCC plug-in (set to Trident) and a Waves Reverb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockabilly69 Posted November 12, 2014 Author Share Posted November 12, 2014 Well, for what it's worth, I'd be very pleased with that sound. I listened to it about a half hour ago and I still have that melody stuck in my head. From what I've heard of your recordings I like your style! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenK Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Tasty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horace Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Lovely. What is that piece of music ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockabilly69 Posted November 12, 2014 Author Share Posted November 12, 2014 Lovely. What is that piece of music ? I lick I just wrote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpuma Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Dan, thank you for sharing your music and your tips on how to record. Your music is always bringing me somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunote Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockabilly69 Posted November 13, 2014 Author Share Posted November 13, 2014 Dan, thank you for sharing your music and your tips on how to record. Your music is always bringing me somewhere You know Gio, I love music that takes me somewhere, so I very appreciate this, and of course, all of the other nice comments! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOGBOY Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Sounds great Dan, even the small bit of slide noise has a nice tone, wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horace Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I lick I just wrote. Bravo. I really like it. Thanks for posting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorn Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Wow, that was beautiful. Well played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolero Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 exemplary recording, as always! love the slide playing and thx for the detailed notes, I will experiment with some of that mic placement too! am curious why you flip the phase on the L/R dupe track? wouldn't it sound better of the panned L/R were in phase? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockabilly69 Posted November 13, 2014 Author Share Posted November 13, 2014 Chris, this is the best explanation of HOW it works that I can find... http://www.uaudio.com/blog/mid-side-mic-recording/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolero Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 ohhh....I get it, the side mic is 90 degrees to the sound source that is really cool, never heard of it before thanks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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