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Millie DC discontinued?


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I was looking at the Heritage website and they only show the single cut 155M with F holes, and no DC model. Has this been discontinued? Also, the 155M is listed as a semi-hollow, but folks I have talked too on this forum tell me it is actually a semi-solid. I know the 535 has a fixed center block that the pups are attached to. Do the Millie models have such a center block as well?

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I have an older Millie H-158 single cut. The center block on mine extends from the back of the guitar to the rear pickup cavity. Outside of that, it is hollow. It's really just there to anchor the tailpiece and bridge.

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No guitar manufacturer calls their guitars "semi-solid", even though what many of them make are really semi-solids (e.g. PRS, Carvin, Epiphone). They all call them semi-hollow -- probably because that's the term everyone is familiar with, they know people are looking for that semi-hollow sound, and semi-solids are less expensive to manufacture than true semi-hollows, but they don't want to tell you that.

 

We use the term "semi-solid" on this forum to distinguish a routed out single piece of wood from a true hollow or semi-hollow (constructed with separate pieces of wood and kerfing) -- but the "guitar knowledge" of most people on this forum exceeds that of the average guitar player / buyer (although some people outside this forum are also familiar with this term).

 

The "center block" on a millie is actually just a part of the large piece of wood that was just not routed away -- as are the sides. There was a photo going around the forum that showed it pretty well. The center block on a 535 is actually a separate piece of wood, that's attached to the top and back.

 

The truth is that a semi-solid does not sound as hollow as a true semi-hollow. That's not necessarily good or bad, it just depends on what you are looking for, but you should be aware of the difference when evaluating guitars for purchase. I imagine that different manufacturers achieve varying degrees of that hollow sound with their semi-solids, depending on exactly how they design their semi-solid (but, in my experience, it will never sound as hollow as a true semi-hollow).

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From my understanding, the options on a Millie have increased.... Double-Cut, Single-Cut, Venetian Cutaway, Florentine Cutaway, F-Holes, No F-Holes, single F-hole...

 

Not to mention new finish options...

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Ah yes, what Detroit said.

I recall something about all milliniums are now the same code they then are optioned to be single,double, Florintine, etc. with even the option for a double florintine cut.

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No guitar manufacturer calls their guitars "semi-solid"

I believe that term is what Heritage called them. Well before we even had a forum. Pretty sure.
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The Hammer Newports we constructed in a similar way. I believe Gibson's has a guitar that also has Millie type contruction (339 or is it 336). Those Hammer Newports we're Fab guitars.

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I believe that term is what Heritage called them. Well before we even had a forum. Pretty sure.

Yes -- if you go back far enough, you can see that. But now they call them semi-hollow.

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