Bopper Posted April 4, 2017 Posted April 4, 2017 Would you buy a heritage guitar with a repaired neck crack for less then half the price of a new one at the time? its a 1996 it lists for $4400 i can get it for $1500 looks like new with case.
TalismanRich Posted April 4, 2017 Posted April 4, 2017 It depends on the nature of the repair, how well it was, and what type of guitar we are talking about. Some repairs can be stronger than the original neck. There have been several guitars owned by folks here on the forum which have had neck repairs. Yes, it devalues the guitar, but if you are looking for a player, and the repair is solid and you can get it for a good bargain, its certainly an option.
AP515 Posted April 4, 2017 Posted April 4, 2017 list isn't a very good metric for worth. The guitar didn't sell for list. If you take what it did sell for and divide by 2 you will have a good used price. A headstock repair will put it lower than half IMO. Much lower. Not that it deserves such a financial hit, but that is the market.
cobo Posted April 4, 2017 Posted April 4, 2017 6 months ago, I paid $1600 for a 2012 H535 that was in mint condition. So it really depends on what model you're planning to buy. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Polo Posted April 4, 2017 Posted April 4, 2017 Short answer: Absolutely not $1500 can still buy you one he'll of a nice used Heritage that's never been traumatized. Good luck on your journey!
Bopper Posted April 4, 2017 Author Posted April 4, 2017 Its a H-575 from elderly. I think I would pull the trigger for say $1200? If you look it up you can see the repair.
kennyv4 Posted April 4, 2017 Posted April 4, 2017 I would never buy any guitar that had a repaired neck. Whenever I see an add for a guitar for sale with a repaired neck it usually states the repair does not affect the guitars playability. If that's true why are they selling the guitar?
Stringman Posted April 4, 2017 Posted April 4, 2017 Me, too: Absolutely Not. Under no circumstance would I buy a guitar with a neck repair. Period.
DetroitBlues Posted April 4, 2017 Posted April 4, 2017 Would you buy a heritage guitar with a repaired neck crack for less then half the price of a new one at the time? its a 1996 it lists for $4400 i can get it for $1500 looks like new with case. Not sure what model you're looking at, $1500 seems like a lot unless it is an Archtop. But I have no problem buying repaired guitars. I would suggest to buy it from someone that has a return policy in case you have it inspected and find they did a shoddy job gluing it up.
Kuz Posted April 4, 2017 Posted April 4, 2017 No headstock repair purchase for me.... nope, sorry, no.
davesultra Posted April 4, 2017 Posted April 4, 2017 I, as well do not buy guitars with headstock repairs.
AP515 Posted April 4, 2017 Posted April 4, 2017 I would not say "never" but I am not really interested either. It would have to be a clean repair and offered way below used, oh, and I'd have to be interested in the model.
111518 Posted April 4, 2017 Posted April 4, 2017 These threads always crack me up ... pun intended. I'm reminded of my friend who still runs a brick and mortar shop, and is an acoustic guy, and basically cannot figure out the logic of electric players. A well-repaired headstock break has no impact on the function of the guitar --essentially every pre-war Martin has had a neck reset; and many have other major repairs as well. The market for old professional acoustics expects these repairs --it probably wouldn't trust a "pristine" example. BUT, and it's a big but --value is determined by the market, not the inherent functionality of the instrument, and the market for electric guitars most definitely discounts for headstock repairs. So, check market value of similar guitars with repairs. If the price is good compared to that price point, buy with no concern --I don't think Elderly would sell an instrument with a crappy repair, or, if so, they would sell it "as is." Great way to get a fully functional instrument at a bargain price. I cracked the headstock on my workhorse 355 and gigged it for years after I had it repaired, and the repair had absolutely no influence on the sound and feel of the guitar. (Or, in that case, the price, since it was heavily modified, and, I would never sell it.) I played a "second" Les Paul for years as well. Perhaps one advantage of working in a shop as a kid was escaping some of the mythology about worth and value and instruments. Ever read an account of the repairs that have taken place over time on almost all Strads and Guarneri's?
notbillgelder Posted April 4, 2017 Posted April 4, 2017 https://www.elderly.com/heritage-h-575-1991.htm Natural finish, double bound 16" body, maple top, f-holes, nice looking maple back and sides, mahogany neck, bound ebony fretboard, dot inlays, 20 frets, 2 Schaller humbucking pickups, trapeze tailpiece, adjustable ebony bridge, bound headstock features overlay with logo, Grover Rotomatic tuners, built in Kalamazoo, upper strap button moved to heel (hole on shoulder plugged), 1-11/16" nut, 24-3/4" scale, OHSC, VGC-EC (well repaired headstock) (SN:H32101
Bopper Posted April 4, 2017 Author Posted April 4, 2017 https://reverb.com/item/4693607-heritage-h-575-custom-1997 this is the one im talking about.
Kuz Posted April 5, 2017 Posted April 5, 2017 https://reverb.com/item/4693607-heritage-h-575-custom-1997 this is the one im talking about. Do you see the chunk missing from the side of the neck near the nut? If it were me, I would pass. I have a friend selling a mint Custom 575 with ebony fretboard for $2000. For less than $300 more you get a new guitar.
gpuma Posted April 5, 2017 Posted April 5, 2017 I would consider buying a guitar with a headstock repair. I would not consider buying it on the internet
yoslate Posted April 5, 2017 Posted April 5, 2017 A well-repaired headstock break has no impact on the function of the guitar --essentially every pre-war Martin has had a neck reset; and many have other major repairs as well. The market for old professional acoustics expects these repairs --it probably wouldn't trust a "pristine" example. BUT, and it's a big but --value is determined by the market, not the inherent functionality of the instrument, and the market for electric guitars most definitely discounts for headstock repairs. So, check market value of similar guitars with repairs. If the price is good compared to that price point, buy with no concern --I don't think Elderly would sell an instrument with a crappy repair, or, if so, they would sell it "as is." Great way to get a fully functional instrument at a bargain price. I cracked the headstock on my workhorse 355 and gigged it for years after I had it repaired, and the repair had absolutely no influence on the sound and feel of the guitar. (Or, in that case, the price, since it was heavily modified, and, I would never sell it.) I played a "second" Les Paul for years as well. Perhaps one advantage of working in a shop as a kid was escaping some of the mythology about worth and value and instruments. Ever read an account of the repairs that have taken place over time on almost all Strads and Guarneri's? As usual, clear perspective from Larry. The headstock on that 575 appears to be cracked, rather than "broken." Big difference between a headstock which has never left the guitar, and one that has. I've repaired both, with good results. But repairing one which has broken off can be tricky. A break which has twisted and/or torn the wood fiber is much more problematic than a "clean" break, in which the fibers are straight, require less "clean-up" and align well in reattaching the broken piece. Where the break occurs relative to the nut is also an issue. Breaks are a lot like finger prints. They're all different...as are the requirements and quality of the repairs. The 575 at Elderly looks to be a crack, rather than a break. And I'm sure the guys at that shop do exemplary work. Were I buying a guitar with a repair such as that, however, I wouldn't buy it unseen and unplayed, and if I could, I'd want to talk with the guy who did the repair.
Hfan Posted April 7, 2017 Posted April 7, 2017 As said, you can get a nice one for not too much more. If the op is still around, I'm about to list a much nicer, hardly played, minty, non busted neck 2007 H575 Custom. PM me. Taking pictures this weekend. From a pet free home..not really ha ha. Here is an old pic:
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