GmA Posted January 21, 2018 Posted January 21, 2018 Hey! I just bought an H140 in need of some love. It was cheap and I am up for the project. Which tuners should I buy? The serial number stars twith D, so I believe it’s a 1987. I want them to be direct replacements without any drilling needed. I have some pictures of the guitar and I am open to suggestions. I already have an SD ‘59 for the bridge and it has the original schaller neck pup. I’m gonna buy a wiring harness off reverb, a new bridge, and then go to town. Thanks in advance for any help. **I am having trouble uploading photos. I’ll post them in the morning.!
High Flying Bird Posted January 21, 2018 Posted January 21, 2018 2 hours ago, GmA said: I have some pictures of the guitar... And you elected not to post these photos? This is a serious infraction on this site. That said, what type of tuners are on the 140now? I would think you could get direct replacements at Stew-Mac. You could probably get most of what you need there. I am not sure about the hardware change out, metric or standard... but someone here will know all about it. I sure would like to see that guitar...
Millennium Maestro Posted January 21, 2018 Posted January 21, 2018 The most common tuner heritage uses is the Grove 102 series
bolero Posted January 21, 2018 Posted January 21, 2018 52 minutes ago, Millennium Maestro said: The most common tuner heritage uses is the Grove 102 series yep most Heritages had the Grovers...that is good to know though, I never knew the actual model # !! I 2nd the request for pics!
GmA Posted January 22, 2018 Author Posted January 22, 2018 Sorry it took so long to upload the photos, I've been busy the past few days. I bought this as a project guitar and I am super excited about it. It obviously need some work, but the bones are VERY solid. According to the person I purchased this from, it was their Grandpa's and he worked for Gibson/Heritage for quite some time (probably BS, but fun story). I figure $200ish worth of quality replacement parts, time, and patience oughta have her up and squealing in no time. Grover posts definitely fit the holes, but the screw hole is diagonal. Any idea of which model Grovers would accommodate my needs?
tulk1 Posted January 22, 2018 Posted January 22, 2018 Ooooh, I like the top on that one. Very understated. So, why gold? Nickle lasts longer, looks better longer.
GmA Posted January 22, 2018 Author Posted January 22, 2018 That top is killer. I don't have a camera good enough to do this plaintop justice, wonderful grain. Gold is what came on it. I like nickel as well, and I'll probably swap it out. Gonna leave the bridge pup uncovered... because Rock N Roll or whatever.
Millennium Maestro Posted January 22, 2018 Posted January 22, 2018 1 hour ago, GmA said: Grover posts definitely fit the holes, but the screw hole is diagonal. Any idea of which model Grovers would accommodate my needs? Every time I see this hole pattern I think Schaller. they have a M6_180... here is the link. There is a spec. document there you can use to measure correct fit.https://www.schaller-electronic.com/hp555171/M6-180-posts-for-solid-headstock-23-7-mm-37.htm?ITServ=ctfcs7kabebf1pg591btcl7i22
y2kc Posted January 22, 2018 Posted January 22, 2018 That is a mahogany top with a bound neck. You have a very nice guitar there . Is that a "B" or a "D" serial number? I call dibs if you get tired of working on it. enjoy, y2kc
iGouger Posted January 22, 2018 Posted January 22, 2018 amazing how gorgeous that one is, even in it's current shape. keep the pics coming as you bring it back to life... would love to see the progress.
bolero Posted January 22, 2018 Posted January 22, 2018 yeah that is a sweet looking gtr! 'hog top too.....congrats!!
Genericmusic Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 6 hours ago, tulk1 said: Ooooh, I like the top on that one. Very understated. So, why gold? Nickle lasts longer, looks better longer.
GmA Posted January 23, 2018 Author Posted January 23, 2018 5 hours ago, Millennium Maestro said: Every time I see this hole pattern I think Schaller. they have a M6_180... here is the link. There is a spec. document there you can use to measure correct fit. https://www.schaller-electronic.com/hp555171/M6-180-posts-for-solid-headstock-23-7-mm-37.htm?ITServ=ctfcs7kabebf1pg591btcl7i22 Thanks a bunch, I’ll check them out, I put a “Grover” in one of the holes and it fit well but screw holes didn’t line up. 3 hours ago, iGouger said: amazing how gorgeous that one is, even in it's current shape. keep the pics coming as you bring it back to life... would love to see the progress. I’ll keep posting pics along the way. Any tips, tricks, or suggestions are welcome.
DetroitBlues Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 It’s actually a rare guitar (note...that does not mean valuable). The holes indicate there was different tuners other than Grovers. Do you mind exposed holes? The pickguard doesn’t belong to tha guitar, that’s a newer H-157 Pickguard. With The Florentine cutaway, the guard doesn’t line up correctly. its a beautiful guitar, some spit and polish and the upgrades your doing, it will be a great guitar!
TalismanRich Posted January 24, 2018 Posted January 24, 2018 DB is right, its unusual. Its got binding along the neck which, not standard on the basic H140. Definteily the pickguard is not stock. The tuners could be Grover 205. Its very close to the Schaller. Interestingly, my 87 H140 has Grover 102 style with the hole straight down.
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