Kuz Posted November 15 Posted November 15 16 hours ago, rockabilly69 said: Luxe Bumble Bee 250k caps??? Do you mean .022 uf caps? Ha, ha,... yes, of course I mean .022 caps.
bolero Posted November 15 Posted November 15 6 hours ago, High Flying Bird said: It is your guitar. Make the mods you want. Other people's rules don't mean shit. This 110%
TalismanRich Posted November 15 Posted November 15 9 hours ago, High Flying Bird said: It is your guitar. Make the mods you want. Other people's rules don't mean shit. Does this mean I can play my Hello Kitty guitar without fear of ridicule or guitar shaming? 1
TalismanRich Posted November 15 Posted November 15 (edited) I agree, make whatever changes you like. I have my preferences, others have different ones. The main thing is that you play it! Edited November 15 by TalismanRich
Spectrum13 Posted November 15 Posted November 15 As this thread diverts from guitar Joe's original intent, perhaps we should remind the Nube of forum founding orthodoxy. #1 Many of us know each other in person from previous PSPs (pilgrimages to 225 Parsons Street) #2 We hold the founders Marv, Jim, Rem and Bill as either living legends or national treasures. Meeting them to tour the 1917 factory is a lifetime memory #3 Out politics consist of CNC vs hand carved and what constitutes the Golden Age /Classic or Vintage Heritage. #4 We do not care if non cult members don't like the headstock #5 Most of us being baby boomers are realistic these are not investments like a 1948 - 1969 Ted McCarty Gibson. Anyone else care to comment? 1
nuke Posted November 15 Posted November 15 10 hours ago, gtrjoe said: Thank you!! 😎 Nice channel on youtube. You got a lot of videos there!
pressure Posted November 15 Posted November 15 Let's not forget JP Moats, one of the original founders. 1
nuke Posted November 15 Posted November 15 Since I was around and 6-string aware when Heritage came along, as well as G&L, I've held both in high regard. I really fell in love with the H140 when I first set hands upon one in the 1980's. Somehow, me owning one, never happened. I can say that among my friends who knew Heritage, we tended to regard them as a "G-style" guitar that was good, more affordable and useful as a tool for the working musician who wanted a good-quality, G-style instrument that was road worthy. That seemed to be the prevailing view of the brand into the 2000's among working musicians. Used Heritage guitars from the 80's and early 90's tend have a lot of... patina in my experience. G&L's, especially ASAT's, same kind of experience. Working man's tools. 1
zguitar71 Posted November 16 Posted November 16 I’ve always felt the guitar I’m playing is part of me. I’ve never named a guitar since they are me. I’ve always done what I need to do to any guitar to make it right in my mind or my hands. You do you boo! Modify that guitar however you want.
bolero Posted November 16 Posted November 16 Hey, people pay a lot of money for fake patina these days!! 🤣
nuke Posted November 16 Posted November 16 15 hours ago, bolero said: Hey, people pay a lot of money for fake patina these days!! 🤣 LOL, they do! Always thought it was weird, but kind of understand it now. I have one very nice guitar, that is so nice, that I get nervous touching it and have OCD to wipe it down every time I get it out for a while. Bought it from a friend who lives in Japan. I'm afraid to take it out anywhere. It's gorgeous and plays like a dream. But a few years ago, was offered a killer deal on a new Gibson 60th anniversary Custom Shop 1960 Les Paul reissue. It came "lightly aged". I have no "first nick" trepidation and pull it out to play with ease. I'll even take it out to a jam or what not. I've always made my own patina, but it seems to take decades. The most "patina" of mine is a 1984 Fender Esprit, and it already had some significant marks when I bought it in 1988. 1
TalismanRich Posted November 17 Posted November 17 On 11/15/2024 at 3:06 PM, Spectrum13 said: #4 We do not care if non cult members don't like the headstock Anyone else care to comment? Why in the heck didn't you tell me I was supposed to hate the headstock. Now I feel so stupid!!!! 1
Spectrum13 Posted November 17 Posted November 17 12 hours ago, TalismanRich said: Why in the heck didn't you tell me I was supposed to hate the headstock. Now I feel so stupid!!!! Er should have ended with we are "OK" with it.
hopkinwfg Posted November 25 Posted November 25 Does anybody whom sand down their H150s finishes thinner? I realised the H150 on my oxblood has kinda thicker finishes... i was wonder if i could knock down its finishes wet sanding down mine by abit could have a better tone letting the wood breathe abit better ?
LK155 Posted November 25 Posted November 25 11 hours ago, hopkinwfg said: Does anybody whom sand down their H150s finishes thinner? I realised the H150 on my oxblood has kinda thicker finishes... i was wonder if i could knock down its finishes wet sanding down mine by abit could have a better tone letting the wood breathe abit better ? This sounds like an easy way to ruin a nice guitar. 1 1
bolero Posted November 25 Posted November 25 Yeah...I think you're looking at diminishing returns on that. You might be better off hooking an oxygen mask up to it 1
rockabilly69 Posted November 25 Posted November 25 15 hours ago, hopkinwfg said: Does anybody whom sand down their H150s finishes thinner? I realised the H150 on my oxblood has kinda thicker finishes... i was wonder if i could knock down its finishes wet sanding down mine by abit could have a better tone letting the wood breathe abit better ? I actually have a close friend with serious musical chops that had a local finish guy knock back the finish on his Gibson 1956 Reissue Les Paul, and on his 1959 Reissue Les Paul. I personally thought it was a mistake when he sent them off. But the guy did a great job on them, and they actually look better, and more importantly, feel better to play (less plastically feeling for lack of a better term.) Both of these guitars have pretty microphonic pickups (Throbaks in both), and he swears the guitars sound more resonant. 2
TalismanRich Posted November 26 Posted November 26 18 hours ago, hopkinwfg said: Does anybody whom sand down their H150s finishes thinner? I realised the H150 on my oxblood has kinda thicker finishes... i was wonder if i could knock down its finishes wet sanding down mine by abit could have a better tone letting the wood breathe abit better ? I hate to say it, but nitro lacquer doesn't allow the wood to "breathe" (the wood is dead anyway..) It's a myth the gets posted on the internet all the time. It's just BS that people say to distinguish it from polyester or urethane coatings that are "plastic". If you're going to sand it down, you better have a good polishing wheel handy to buff it back, unless you want an "old looking" dull finish. Just be careful that you don't sand or buff through the whole finish. According to my dad, I had an uncle who used to polish his black Oldsmobile every week back in the early 50s. After a couple of years, he hit metal on a few spots! 1 1
hopkinwfg Posted November 26 Posted November 26 2 hours ago, rockabilly69 said: I actually have a close friend with serious musical chops that had a local finish guy knock back the finish on his Gibson 1956 Reissue Les Paul, and on his 1959 Reissue Les Paul. I personally thought it was a mistake when he sent them off. But the guy did a great job on them, and they actually look better, and more importantly, feel better to play (less plastically feeling for lack of a better term.) Both of these guitars have pretty microphonic pickups (Throbaks in both), and he swears the guitars sound more resonant. I cant imagine how thin the sanding goes on the RI 1959 Gibson but owning a two of 2006 and 2008 R9 and R8 i could see its finishing is very thin .... Gibson RI still has that loud high mid resonant sound where the Heritage H150 newer era has a slight less mid resonant i just thought so it could probably be the finishes.... not sure what the Heritage new era finishes reciepe be.... i would also note that and like to know how different can these solid color H150 guitars can be different from those in burst colored with dyes vs solid color paint ie oxblood, black white etc.... i guess tone also contributed a vast difference between these two color schemes.... yet i have to submit my experience in sending down my 2001 RI 57 Black beauty to Starr guitars for a refinishing work and not only did the vos color in black turns out great in my opinion it also sounded very resonant too.... could it be the formula thingy between burst LP and solid colors applied ?
TalismanRich Posted November 26 Posted November 26 2 hours ago, rockabilly69 said: I actually have a close friend with serious musical chops that had a local finish guy knock back the finish on his Gibson 1956 Reissue Les Paul, and on his 1959 Reissue Les Paul. I personally thought it was a mistake when he sent them off. But the guy did a great job on them, and they actually look better, and more importantly, feel better to play (less plastically feeling for lack of a better term.) Both of these guitars have pretty microphonic pickups (Throbaks in both), and he swears the guitars sound more resonant. I don't doubt he says it's more resonant. NOBODY is going to say that they went through all that effort and money and ruined their guitar's sound. I have read hundreds of comments of people modding stuff, and it always turns out better... 100% of the time. It never fails to make a massive improvement. Call me a skeptic. 1
hopkinwfg Posted November 26 Posted November 26 31 minutes ago, TalismanRich said: I hate to say it, but nitro lacquer doesn't allow the wood to "breathe" (the wood is dead anyway..) It's a myth the gets posted on the internet all the time. It's just BS that people say to distinguish it from polyester or urethane coatings that are "plastic". If you're going to sand it down, you better have a good polishing wheel handy to buff it back, unless you want an "old looking" dull finish. Just be careful that you don't sand or buff through the whole finish. According to my dad, I had an uncle who used to polish his black Oldsmobile every week back in the early 50s. After a couple of years, he hit metal on a few spots! Hahah thanks for your concern... unfortunately no i didnt have a polishing wheel but i didnt want it to be anywhere as polish either... good advise is .... yes just how much can i knock the finishes down... just wanna know if anybody has done it
bolero Posted November 26 Posted November 26 I bought a gtr with no finish once, it was blowtorched instead to sear it off. Kind of like a steak. Later on I did put a coat of lacquer on it so it handled seasonal changes better. 1
TalismanRich Posted November 26 Posted November 26 As I understand, the nitro finish on most guitars is in the few thousandths of an inch... maybe 3 to 6 thou. They aren't very thick. I think polyester finishes can be 20-30 thou. 1
TalismanRich Posted November 26 Posted November 26 1 hour ago, bolero said: I bought a gtr with no finish once, it was blowtorched instead to sear it off. Kind of like a steak. Later on I did put a coat of lacquer on it so it handled seasonal changes better. While wood doesn't breathe, exposed wood will absorb and release moisture, which causes the wood to swell and shrink. That's why acoustic guitar bodies will move significantly with seasonal changes in humidity. The whole inside of the guitar is bare wood. The fretboards of guitars are generally uncoated, so they will also move with humidity changes. That's why we have truss rods. You won't see the body of electric guitars move like that since they are a) much thicker and stable and b) coated with lacquer to seal the surface. 1
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