Rude Dog Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 I'll get a beating for asking this, but here goes anyways as I have a whole bunch of respect for you all as people. I'm thinking of trading/Selling my H150 Classic for a 1957 Gibson ES 225TD. Those not familiar it's a Single cutaway, thinline 2 P90s . The ES 225 is for sale locally and I played and fell in love. I really think this guitar has "it" as far as my playing and tone needs. It looks like I'd have to sell my number 1 (H150) for the last 5 years to raise funds for it. But am really torn. It seems like I set up the pickups on the H150 and set amps up to approximate the sound that this ES 225 gets in spades. My current guitars: Heritage H150 with sheptone pickups chinese made Squier Strat (A tone monster I literally pulled out of the garbage) Refretted with medium jumbos and ready to roll! That's it; not much and it's be nice to compliment the Heritage with this ES 225, but can't swing the cash. So the ES 225 would become my number one. Whadyall think? :undecided: Feel free to bash... really, I kinda deserve it
gopeteygo Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 Yikes. I don't envy you. But you know it's gotta be your call. Got anything else to sell? :undecided: I don't think anybody here would be too hateful about it.
Sparky Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 Go for it... how often do 1957 Gibsons come along?
Dick Seacup Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 You only need one kidney. Just sayin'. Just kidding...I'm not a brand snob at all. I've owned all sorts of strange things...Peavey, Ovation (solid body!), &c. If the guitar does it for you, who gives a fig what it says on the headstock? I mean...isn't that what we've been saying here all along?
Rude Dog Posted April 29, 2009 Author Posted April 29, 2009 Thanks everyone for your cander and being nice. I really appreciate it, and this place, for the great people, and their positive posts It's tough. the H150 has been the shit for me! and I've loved the hell out of it. Everyone that plays her or hears it loves it - including some die-hard gibson lovers that are friends of mine. This particular instrument as a great voice. And she;s very comfortable to play. I almost have carpal tunnel & the neck on her is the most comfortable. I've always wanted a 50s semihollow with p90s; finally played one expecting it to sound and play like poo - with the honking tail piece etc; and bam! what tone and touch and playability - my knees were practically knocking. I've never experienced that before Thanks for letting me rant. I may just take the H150 up and do a head to head comparision.
barrymclark Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 Yep. Same factory and possibly some of the same hands touched it along the way. (Marvin I believe started in 56.) Even if Joe Schmo doesn't know it... we do. If it is what you want, who is anybody to tell you different.
Dick Seacup Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 Might I suggest that, if possible, you get the 225TD and hold on to the H150 for a bit. Wait for the honeymoon to end and then compare. I think that is the rational thing to do, given your stated connection/feelings to the H150. Some times it's just time to move on, and you know it; you don't sound like you're quite there yet with the Heritage. If you are, though, don't hesitate just because of the brand...nothing wrong with a good instrument, regardless of who built it.
Paul P Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 [table][tr][td][table][tr][td][/td][/tr][/table][/td][/tr][/table] I'm thinking of trading/Selling my H150 Classic for a 1957 Gibson ES 225TD. Those not familiar it's a Single cutaway, thinline 2 P90s .... But am really torn. It seems like I set up the pickups on the H150 and set amps up to approximate the sound that this ES 225 gets in spades. First of all I'd say a 57 Gibson is even more of a Heritage than a Heritage. A question though, just out of curiosity : these are two pretty different guitars but you seem to refer to them as in some way equivalent ? Or is it that the H150 was not at all what you should have been playing for the last five years ? If you have just found the tone you've been looking for for so long how could you possibly let it go ? [table][tr][td][table][tr][td][/td][/tr][/table][/td][/tr][/table]
Kuz Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 I would say go for it too, but 2 thoughts for you. 1. The 225 is completely different from the 150 you own, and you may find the 225 to be more of a niche guitar than a #1. 2. Why not order a 525 and you maybe able to keep your 150. I too wanted a p-90 hollowbody and I'll put my 525 up to the test with any one out there. As much as I love my 525, it is a niche guitar to me and I don't play it nearly as much as my 150s ( I play the 525 a lot, don't get me wrong, but when you want to rock out well it's 150 time...) Good luck!
Rude Dog Posted April 29, 2009 Author Posted April 29, 2009 Might I suggest that, if possible, you get the 225TD and hold on to the H150 for a bit. Wait for the honeymoon to end and then compare. I think that is the rational thing to do, given your stated connection/feelings to the H150. Some times it's just time to move on, and you know it; you don't sound like you're quite there yet with the Heritage. If you are, though, don't hesitate just because of the brand...nothing wrong with a good instrument, regardless of who built it. That's a good Idea, have both for a while and wait for the honeymoon to end and see where I'm at. Great suggestion.
Rude Dog Posted April 29, 2009 Author Posted April 29, 2009 [table][tr][td][table][tr][td][/td][/tr][/table][/td][/tr][/table]First of all I'd say a 57 Gibson is even more of a Heritage than a Heritage. A question though, just out of curiosity : these are two pretty different guitars but you seem to refer to them as is some way equivalent ? Or is it that the H150 was not at all what you should have been playing for the last five years ? I think that the more I've played it, I've been trying to pull p90 semihollow tones out of it; and greatly enjoying it the whole time... tones mostly from pickups out of phase and having more neck than bridge gets me in that direction to these ears If you have just found the tone you've been looking for for so long how could you possibly let it go ? [table][tr][td][table][tr][td][/td][/tr][/table][/td][/tr][/table] Very true.
guitarjb Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 Might I suggest that, if possible, you get the 225TD and hold on to the H150 for a bit. Wait for the honeymoon to end and then compare. I think that is the rational thing to do, given your stated connection/feelings to the H150. Some times it's just time to move on, and you know it; you don't sound like you're quite there yet with the Heritage. If you are, though, don't hesitate just because of the brand...nothing wrong with a good instrument, regardless of who built it. +1 on this, great suggestion. I would not let that ES-225 get away; sounds to me like you really want it over the H150. But with this tactic you will have time to make an informed decision, which you will feel much better about later on- whatever the final decision. Another thing: the ES-225 will appreciate in value much faster than the H150 will. So the ES-225 is also an investment which will pay off later. Good luck! Joe
Jazzpunk Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 First of all, an old Gibson is not more Heritage than an actual Heritage but if that makes you feel like you're not cheatin' on us than it's all good! :wink: I think the 225 is a bitchin guitar. More importantly, it has the sound you've been striving for and chasing tone can be a long and lonely quest. If you've found it, grab it!!! You'll miss the 150 once it's gone but hey, it'll give you somethin' else to start saving for.
golferwave Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 Anything made at 225 Parsons Street is cool! Just make sure it's what you really want before making the move. Parsons Street is the Holy Temple of guitar factories in the whole world!
yoslate Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 Typical of the HOC, lots of great advice, and, in particular, I think Dixie and Kuz have posted some good food for thought. At the end of the day, Rude, you're the only one you have to make happy. And it's way too short a life not to work to that end! Good luck, my friend; either way, how can you loose?
mars_hall Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 I don't know if you caught the subtle message flow underlying here. No one that has this special addiction we seem to have here will ever tell you to sell a guitar and then buy another. You will always be told to buy another first and then decide whether or not to sale the other. The nature of this is you come to the realization that you should probably keep both. I mean, afterall, two is better than one Funny how GAS works.
Thundersteel Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 If you have the opportunity to get it, don't let it pass you by. You'll regret it if you do!
tulk1 Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 If you have the opportunity to get it, don't let it pass you by. You'll regret it if you do! +1 on that comment. I'd love to have a vintage guitar of that caliber. There is something about that 50+ year old wood that just ........ well, it's hard to describe. I say go for it, whether you keep both or not.
Spectrum13 Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 If you can't have both... passing on a well loved and played 150 with Sheps would make someone else very happy. My question to you, is it the P90 tone or everything about the 57 225? A 50 year old will need a bit more care and if it has that Lester designed and flipped built bridge, you might not like it so much after the honeymoon. Consider a soap bar 150 or 137? I'm just saying man.
shook494 Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 I say get on it!! I like the idea of a true vintage guitar with some MOJO. You already played it and it obviously moved you in some way. Stuff like that only happens every once in a while. I think you would be lucky to have something that gives you the tones flying around in your in your head.
Hfan Posted April 30, 2009 Posted April 30, 2009 Sounds like a good idea, if you can swing it, to buy the 225 and keep the 150 for a while to confirm which one really makes it for you. If you can only afford one right now, the 150 I would suspect would be easier to replace then a rare, hard to find vintage instrument that still is functional. There seems to be a good market out there for used 150's at reasonable to down right cheap prices. Lastly, if you don't buy the 225 you might regret it forever. If you decide in the future you don't like it there will be a market for it. Consider it money in the bank.
Rude Dog Posted April 30, 2009 Author Posted April 30, 2009 Alright, the H150 isn't going anywhere. I played the ES 225 for about 20 minutes or so, and it's not something to replace my H150. I'm going to sell a thing or 2 and beg the wife for the difference Hopefully the ES 225 will still be available by then. Thanks again to everyone for their words of wisdom; much appreciated!
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