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I local is selling one which he agreed to let me have for $650. I was wondering is this is a good price, of course contingent on condition. The best I know of it is that it was built in 1986. He doesn't know what kind of pickup are on it but says they are stock. Does anyone know what sort of pickups were most likely stock on that model in 1986?

 

I'm anxious for a new addition to the family, already have a 140-P but imagine this will sound different than the poplar version. Les Paulish like a 150?

 

That pickguard doesn't look stock, but my 150-P came with a weird wooden one that looks odd on a black guitar.

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looks like it has the stock Schaller pups in it...nice top and that price seems really good if it isnt beat to crap

 

good luck

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Thanks, I think that's what's in my 140-P if I recall right... never saw a reason to swap them out. I'm check the condition.. funds are low but if that's a great price I think I can convince the wife it's an "investment"... I pretty much say that about all my equip and never sold a piece.

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How quickly can you rip that pickguard off?

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LOL... it's not the original he emailed me.. Um... yea, it's a bit gaudy.

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Why cover that top with any pick guard?

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An '86 H-140? Second full year of production? Grab it!! You'll def hear a difference between this one and your 140P. The 140CM (Curly Maple) was Heritage's first solid top LP-market guitar. Yeah, you'll get some good tone that you can't get with the poplar body.

 

BTW, Heritage finger rests (uh, pick guards) are wooden. Generally a very nice maple figuring, too. Even if it's painted black. Just thought you should know.

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Before you close the deal, be sure to take a look UNDER that pick guard monstrosity. It could be hiding something.

 

A disco ball, a bass boat, silver naked ladies &/or "Back Off" mudflaps, ect....

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Well I bought it... couldn't resist. This guy bought it in 1986 from Sam Moss, a local music shop owner and played it maybe a few hours only since then. It still has the strings that he bought it with!

 

I played it tonight in practice, 23 year old strings and all, action a bit high but will have it set up. It is virtually a new guitar. No fretwear, dings, buckle rash. The tuners seemed to flake out a little.

 

The sad story behind it is he bought it to play with his brother, but his brother died of an overdose shortly after so he never picked it up again. It just sat, since this guy is mainly an acoustic player. There's a song in this... I need to name it something appropriate too. I told him I'd hopefully use it to create happiness, which would be a fitting tribute. Maybe I'll name her Joy.

 

What sort of maintenance would one do for a guitar that sat so long? Having a setup is a given... I need the strings lowered a tad since I like the lowest action possible. I severed a nerve in my index finger a few months ago... nasty cut, so the higher action was difficult tonight. I'm still on the rebound with that and almost have feeling back up to the last knuckle.

 

The electronics seem fine.. no scratchiness. I'll post better pics when I take them.

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Nice score! Looking forward to the pics and full review after the setup! I'd bet his brother would be happy the guitar is going to make sweet music again.

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The sad story behind it is he bought it to play with his brother, but his brother died of an overdose shortly after so he never picked it up again. It just sat, since this guy is mainly an acoustic player. There's a song in this... I need to name it something appropriate too. I told him I'd hopefully use it to create happiness, which would be a fitting tribute. Maybe I'll name her Joy.

I'll say there's a song it this.

 

I hope you and Joy find the energy to calm the sadness living in that guitar.

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How quickly can you rip that pickguard off?
You got that right!! Beautiful flame though..
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Here's what I do when I get a guitar that's been put up a while...

1. remove the strings

2. remove select hardware (at least bridge and tailpiece, maybe tuners or pickguard, depending on grunge)

3. scrap the pickguard on your guitar ;)

4. blow down the guitar inside and out with compressed air

5. clean the body with Fender Mist & Wipe, step up to polishes if stubborn grime persists. Admire your reflection (briefly)

6. gently clean the hardware, llightly ubricate truss rod nut with vaseline and replace

7. polish the frets with 0000 steel wool

8. clean fingerboard and lube with Guitar Honey or similar, mineral oil isn't bad either

9. restring

10. adjust truss rod using capo at first fret and fingering the body fret, use Erlewine's repair guide for reference

11. check depth of nut slots and adjust to provide minimal clearance at the first fret when fretting the 2nd (use stacked feeler gauges to prevent uh-oh moments)

12. lower/raise action at the bridge to suit, again use Erlewine's repair guide as a starting point

13. raise/lower pickups to provide correct clearance, and yes once again using Erlewine as guide

14. tune it up, put on something slow, close your eyes, enjoy the moment...

Not for everyone, but I really enjoy bringing back these types of guitars.

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I'm not sure I believe the story. The bridge and tailpiece hardware from an '86 H140 would be Schaller. This guitar has what looks like a Nashville bridge and Gibson style stop tail.

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