JohnCovach Posted July 3, 2009 Posted July 3, 2009 The Heritage used market is is outrageous. I waited a long time to finally find someone with brain and a great H555 that I purchased for a steal.I love the company, story, and build of the instruments but come on some folks need to GET REAL. I mean get what you can but there is a reason you keep seeing the same corny and bloated post on craigslist weekly. I think humans lost the art of the haggle. My experience is different. I have gotten lots of great deals on Heritages, and some quite recently. You just have to sort through those that are offered, pretty much as you would if you were buying anything used. There are always going to be people who overestimate the value of what they are selling, and Heritage guitars are no different. Compared to the big brands, I still think average Heritage used prices are low for what you get.
Kuz Posted July 4, 2009 Posted July 4, 2009 I would say that the used prices lately aren't high, but appropriate value. People are wising up to the quality of Heritage guitars.
Paul P Posted July 4, 2009 Posted July 4, 2009 I mean get what you can but there is a reason you keep seeing the same corny and bloated post on craigslist weekly.I think humans lost the art of the haggle. Haggling is an art that we've lost here in North America. We've come to expect to pay what is asked and feel offended if the price is too high. Buying a house has been a great course in haggling for me, something I've rarely gotten the chance to do. I've discovered that it's a pretty fun game, like playing poker. The goal is to steer the other party towards what you'd be happy with while hopefully making them happy as well, or at least without offending them. The initial price is just the starting point. There was a funny joke on the radio the other day about someone from the Middle East going into a McDonald's in the US and, when the employee says "that'll be $3.50 for the Big Mac" the person replies "will you take 3$ ?"
pegleg32 Posted July 4, 2009 Posted July 4, 2009 My guitars (note plural) are not an investment for economic purposes, they are an investment for pleasure. There really is no cost to a guitar if you enjoy it sufficiently. Pegleg
Jazzpunk Posted July 4, 2009 Posted July 4, 2009 Just for clarification, can the guys complaining about the used prices of Heritage guitars please list the Heritage guitars that you bought new at full retail value? I think this will bring some of the comments into perspective. Thanks.
Kuz Posted July 4, 2009 Posted July 4, 2009 Just for clarification, can the guys complaining about the used prices of Heritage guitars please list the Heritage guitars that you bought new at full retail value? I think this will bring some of the comments into perspective. Thanks. Most of those complaining about used prices never buy new, or don't buy new. Either way you are getting a good deal if the guitar is playable and in acceptable condition. Now that Heritage guitars and starting to slowly increase in value, some are complaining. I have said for years that Heritage guitars are about the TONE and quality of guitar, NOT THE BARGAIN PRICE OVER GIBBY. Glad to see it's starting to become true.
brentrocks Posted July 4, 2009 Posted July 4, 2009 You know what..... I have been known to buy a few used guitars now and then.... I feel that Heritage guitars in the used market are STILL the best value going. You have to be a informed buyer though. There are lots of guitars out there that are overpriced, BUT, they wont sell, then you wait for the price to come down..... AND THEN YOU POUNCE, LIKE A JUNGLE CAT!
Kuz Posted July 4, 2009 Posted July 4, 2009 You know what..... I have been known to buy a few used guitars now and then.... I feel that Heritage guitars in the used market are STILL the best value going. You have to be a informed buyer though. There are lots of guitars out there that are overpriced, BUT, they wont sell, then you wait for the price to come down..... AND THEN YOU POUNCE, LIKE A JUNGLE CAT! Brent my good friend, I think of you VERY fondly. But I have never thought of you as a Jungle Cat. How about a Kodiak Bear?
brentrocks Posted July 4, 2009 Posted July 4, 2009 Brent my good friend, I think of you VERY fondly. But I have never thought of you as a Jungle Cat. How about a Kodiak Bear? LMAO....yeah, you are probably right
SouthpawGuy Posted July 4, 2009 Posted July 4, 2009 You know what..... I have been known to buy a few used guitars now and then.... I feel that Heritage guitars in the used market are STILL the best value going. You have to be a informed buyer though. There are lots of guitars out there that are overpriced, BUT, they wont sell, then you wait for the price to come down..... AND THEN YOU POUNCE, LIKE A JUNGLE CAT! Really ? Never !!!
wrxplayer Posted July 6, 2009 Posted July 6, 2009 A couple of thoughts to add to the discussion. 1. Items priced properly sell; those that are priced too high don't. Basic economics, whether talking about guitars, houses, boats, or a meal. 2. As noted by others, some are very motivated to sell, others not so much. This leads to bargains from time to time. It also may lead to someone else "buying high" if the particular item is unique to the buyer or the buyer is particularly motivated ("I just got my commission check and I want to spend it... NOW!) 3. Posted prices are asking prices. Fair to assume a 95% offer will often make the deal. Also, even though this isn't ebay, in most deals the net price to seller on a $1000 guitar is $930 after taking paypal and shipping fees into account. Thus, in the end, if a seller posts a guitar for $1000 at the end of the day the seller's actually netting $883.50. Taking it all into account, I think my asking price on my H137 is a steal!
Thundersteel Posted July 6, 2009 Posted July 6, 2009 Except for one, I've lost money on EVERY guitar I've sold; usually several hundred dollars. I guess that's the drawback of buying new. Perhaps I'm the bargain sucker seller everyone is looking for?
Dick Seacup Posted July 7, 2009 Posted July 7, 2009 On some mornings, I like fried eggs over corned beef hash. Most mornings, though, I have yogurt with granola and dried, sweet (Michigan) cherries.
Yankeefan01 Posted July 7, 2009 Posted July 7, 2009 Except for one, I've lost money on EVERY guitar I've sold; usually several hundred dollars. I guess that's the drawback of buying new. Perhaps I'm the bargain sucker seller everyone is looking for? That's the cost of buying new, whether cars, trucks, boats or musical instruments. You never, or rarely, get your money back when you buy new. I wouldn't call you a sucker. Some people just don't like to buy used, or prefer new.
Jazzpunk Posted July 7, 2009 Posted July 7, 2009 Some people just don't like to buy used, or prefer new. If you really dig Heritage you have to buy at least one new guitar from them. Can't sustain a business on used guitar sales alone! Paying retail will also put some perspective on complaints about used prices.
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