parrhesia Posted September 22, 2009 Posted September 22, 2009 Hello fellow Heritage owners, Very excited about this site, which I just joined. I'm a little intimidated by how knowledgeable everybody is compared to me, but oh well. I have a 1987 Heritage solid-body electric guitar. Not exactly sure which model it is-- possible an H-150? It's a Les Paul with a pretty sunburst color body. I've owned it since I was in high school in the early 1990's and still play it every chance I get. One small problem: it came with a chrome roller bridge that I liked, but it's currently missing a saddle for the 1st string. Anybody know how to find a single roller saddle replacement and avoid buying a new bridge?
brentrocks Posted September 22, 2009 Posted September 22, 2009 Hello fellow Heritage owners, Very excited about this site, which I just joined. I'm a little intimidated by how knowledgeable everybody is compared to me, but oh well. I have a 1987 Heritage solid-body electric guitar. Not exactly sure which model it is-- possible an H-150? It's a Les Paul with a pretty sunburst color body. I've owned it since I was in high school in the early 1990's and still play it every chance I get. One small problem: it came with a chrome roller bridge that I liked, but it's currently missing a saddle for the 1st string. Anybody know how to find a single roller saddle replacement and avoid buying a new bridge? i have some extra saddles laying around...are you talking about just the wheel and threaded piece that the string sets on? shoot me your address and i'll send 1 to ya
tbonesullivan Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 I've noticed that a lot of people take off the roller bridge, and instead put on a Nashville-style TOM. Heritage also seems to have gone away from that design. Why no love for the roller bridge? isn't it more customizable than the other TOM's due to the adjustable string spacing? Or is it a tone issue? also, what about that big bad tailpiece?
brentrocks Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 i love the Schaller hardwar...always have and have not noticed any significant difference between the 2 styles as far as tone or anything else
golferwave Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 I've noticed that a lot of people take off the roller bridge, and instead put on a Nashville-style TOM. Heritage also seems to have gone away from that design. Why no love for the roller bridge? isn't it more customizable than the other TOM's due to the adjustable string spacing? Or is it a tone issue? also, what about that big bad tailpiece? Jay says that the roller bridge affects sustain in a negative way. The one great thing about the roller bridge is no string breakage. I can do without the big tailpiece but others like it ok. Each person has their preference.
Kuz Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 Jay says that the roller bridge affects sustain in a negative way. The one great thing about the roller bridge is no string breakage. I can do without the big tailpiece but others like it ok. Each person has their preference. This is true Seymour Duncan did a study (not just a "by ear" study, but an actual oscillation scientific study) that showed something like 22 or 24% more sustain with the Nashville bridge. This is why Jay Wolfe only orders his Heritage's with Nashville hardware. Then after several years, everyone (except Brent ) kind of just adapted and ordered them that way.
tbonesullivan Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 well... I would see how that's true... also explains why the sustain on Kahlers tremolos is known for being bad: too many rollers isolating the sound from the guitar body. My heritage most likely originally came with a roller bridge. I also have the big bad tailpiece, but someone replaced it with a supposed vintage GIbson stoptail. I am pretty sure next time It's in for a setup, I'm gonna have my guy pull the bushings and put the big thing back on.
RJLII Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 I replaced the roller bridge on my H-550 with a Nashville style TOM and am pleased with the results. To my ear, the strings ring clearer and less vibration is transmitted to the portion of the strings between the bridge and tailpiece. I suppose that equates to better sustain. I think it looks nicer too. My $0.02 ($0.015 after taxes)
paul144 Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 I just converted my 2 H140s to Schaller Nashville bridges and vintage style tailpieces. Much better than stock. I have a Schaller Big Tailpiece available in the marketplace.
smurph1 Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 My 140 is a straight stock Schaller set up..It sounds great, but I've never listened to one that was converted to the T.O.M,..I like being able to adjust the string spacing on the Schaller, though..It's really easy..
parrhesia Posted September 28, 2009 Author Posted September 28, 2009 Much appreciated: Nat Worden 94 Fern Avenue Litchfield, CT 06759 i have some extra saddles laying around...are you talking about just the wheel and threaded piece that the string sets on? shoot me your address and i'll send 1 to ya
tbonesullivan Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 quick question: is the schaller roller bridge that Heritage uses the same one that stewart macdonald sells? http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Bridges,_tailp...ler_Bridge.html I'm thinking about putting the heritage completely back to stock. I'll always have the Grover tom if I really noticed a sustain decrease. Just... it's a heritage, and I want it to look like a heritage.
shook494 Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 I can't really tell a difference in tone between the Tom or the Schaller stuff. I do prefer the look of the Tom type. Welcome and can we see some pics? It's cool you've owned it for so long. We want to see it!!!
big bob Posted September 29, 2009 Posted September 29, 2009 i have some extra saddles laying around...are you talking about just the wheel and threaded piece that the string sets on? shoot me your address and i'll send 1 to ya now thats what the hoc is all about
DCA Posted September 29, 2009 Posted September 29, 2009 This is true Seymour Duncan did a study (not just a "by ear" study, but an actual oscillation scientific study) that showed something like 22 or 24% more sustain with the Nashville bridge. This is why Jay Wolfe only orders his Heritage's with Nashville hardware. Then after several years, everyone (except Brent ) kind of just adapted and ordered them that way. A quarter more? While that's impressive, that doesn't strike me as a useful trait. When I first started playing my Heritage 535 I found it necessary to end the natural sustain and decay of the finishing chord/note by doing the ever anoying "double chop." The song's over, this sustain is cool as a guitar player, but going on a bit long for the audience's comfort, double chop. Song done, awkwardness finished. Next song. Is it sustain in the usual sense? That is, the amount of time we hear the note decaying? Or is it useful sustain, the amount of time you can usefully maintain a clear note before it falls out of the band's volume level? I'm interested in learning more about that study. If you're able, please post a link.
brentrocks Posted September 29, 2009 Posted September 29, 2009 quick question: is the schaller roller bridge that Heritage uses the same one that stewart macdonald sells? http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Bridges,_tailp...ler_Bridge.html I'm thinking about putting the heritage completely back to stock. I'll always have the Grover tom if I really noticed a sustain decrease. Just... it's a heritage, and I want it to look like a heritage. i think they are pretty much the same
parrhesia Posted October 18, 2009 Author Posted October 18, 2009 I received the saddle in the mail. Thank you so much.
Millennium Maestro Posted October 19, 2009 Posted October 19, 2009 This is true Seymour Duncan did a study (not just a "by ear" study, but an actual oscillation scientific study) that showed something like 22 or 24% more sustain with the Nashville bridge. This is why Jay Wolfe only orders his Heritage's with Nashville hardware. Then after several years, everyone (except Brent ) kind of just adapted and ordered them that way. I wonder what that test would show for the loss that occurs with a ply topped guitar as oppposed to a solid wood top?
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