big bob Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 So I'm over the excitement of happy new guitar day and this is what I have I think three lipstick pickups, three volume, one of which is a push pull three way toggle with the push pull down and the toggle down I get the bridge controlled by volume #2 with the p/p down and the toggle in mid I get bridge controlled by volume #2 and neck controlled by volume #1 with the p/p down and the toggle up I get the neck controlled by volume #1 with the p/p up and the toggle down I get bridge controlled by volume 2 and mid controlled by volume three (push pull) with the push pull up and the toggle mid I get bridge controlled by 2, neck controlled by 1, and mid controlled by three with the push pull up and the toggle up I get the neck controlled by 1, and mid controlled by 3 pluses each pot can have volume adjusted individually to dial in just the right twang or tone can have all three pups on at the same time. minuses confusing as hell when I'm playing, no tone control, no master volume, and when two pots are on adjusting volume is not smooth or quick. I'm going to change the pups (don't care for the lipsticks, great on high gain, week clean.. what would you do with three pots, and a hole for a toggle I considering a master volume, two tones, and replacing the three way toggle with a five way rotary. and then using the p/p for series parallel.. what would you guys do.
tulk1 Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 Put a piezo under the bridge. Then you have Vol/Tone for the Mags, Vol for the Piezo.
big bob Posted October 28, 2009 Author Posted October 28, 2009 i'd route it out for 3 HRWs. no way it will stay three singles, I'm thinking of putting active pups in, I can't find a set of fender elites (original) so might go emg.
pro-fusion Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 Singles in the neck/middle, single-coil-sized humbucker in the neck (JB Jr. is my fav), master vol. and tone, 5-way rotary, and coil tap switch for the bridge PU. Lots of versatility, no routing necessary. I like Duncan singles, personally. One thing to keep in mind, is that your guitar isn't routed for single coils that have the extended triangular "lip" on one side of the base. I'm pretty sure that all the DiMarzio and Fender single coils have this "lip", but there are several Duncan models that don't, including their SC-sized humbuckers and Quarter Pounder single coils. EMG singles also don't have this. You could do an installation of active EMG-SA pickups that would absolutely kick butt in that guitar. You might be able to use the toggle position for one of EMG's circuits, such as the PA-2. That way, you could get both sparkling cleans and uber-output when you wanted it. Duncan now makes single-coil Blackout active pickups with a jumper on the bottom that can be fixed for high or low output, or connected to a switch to control that function. I haven't tried those pickups yet, but I'm probably going to soon in one of my superstrats.
big bob Posted October 28, 2009 Author Posted October 28, 2009 Singles in the neck/middle, single-coil-sized humbucker in the neck (JB Jr. is my fav), master vol. and tone, 5-way rotary, and coil tap switch for the bridge PU. Lots of versatility, no routing necessary. I like Duncan singles, personally. One thing to keep in mind, is that your guitar isn't routed for single coils that have the extended triangular "lip" on one side of the base. I'm pretty sure that all the DiMarzio and Fender single coils have this "lip", but there are several Duncan models that don't, including their SC-sized humbuckers and Quarter Pounder single coils. EMG singles also don't have this. You could do an installation of active EMG-SA pickups that would absolutely kick butt in that guitar. You might be able to use the toggle position for one of EMG's circuits, such as the PA-2. That way, you could get both sparkling cleans and uber-output when you wanted it. Duncan now makes single-coil Blackout active pickups with a jumper on the bottom that can be fixed for high or low output, or connected to a switch to control that function. I haven't tried those pickups yet, but I'm probably going to soon in one of my superstrats. thanks, i'm still trying to figure out how a five way rotary works..
Mikenov Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 Wow, you guys are good. I don't know what Pro-fusion just said but I liked the sound of it.
big bob Posted October 28, 2009 Author Posted October 28, 2009 I could go simple and wire it master volume , bridge tone , neck tone , with the 3 way toggle using the neck and bridge and then use the push pull as an on off for the middle..
tulk1 Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 What about tracking down the original pups that were in it? They looked uber cool. Then do the Strat-ish wiring with push/pull options.
Kuz Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 What about tracking down the original pups that were in it? They looked uber cool. Then do the Strat-ish wiring with push/pull options. Hey, it's your guitar do what you want to her.... BUT I vote to restore her to original. Then if you like her great. If not, then sell her. She is just such an unique Heritage that any mod that can't be restored would really hurt that original piece of history, IMHO. YMMV
big bob Posted October 28, 2009 Author Posted October 28, 2009 Hey, it's your guitar do what you want to her.... BUT I vote to restore her to original. Then if you like her great. If not, then sell her. She is just such an unique Heritage that any mod that can't be restored would really hurt that original piece of history, IMHO. YMMV all I know of original is that it had fender elite active pups, and a three way toggle. don't know if the push pull was added. but maybe I can find out ..thanks!!!
FredZepp Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 I could go simple and wire it master volume , bridge tone , neck tone , with the 3 way toggle using the neck and bridge and then use the push pull as an on off for the middle.. I like this option , with original elite actives or a look-alike option. I liked the way it looked originally . and you can get a much fuller sound out of about anything, except the lipsticks... and active would be cool..
brentrocks Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 i think i'm gonna route a 3rd hole in the milli and throw a JB in there...
SouthpawGuy Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 i think i'm gonna route a 3rd hole in the milli and throw a JB in there... What no Hillbilly crowbar ?
FredZepp Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 i think i'm gonna route a 3rd hole in the milli and throw a JB in there... Sounds like you could get a good deal on a lipstick pickup to put on it...... it'd be a one of a kind...
big bob Posted October 29, 2009 Author Posted October 29, 2009 i think i'm gonna route a 3rd hole in the milli and throw a JB in there... I know where you live...
big bob Posted October 29, 2009 Author Posted October 29, 2009 I like this option , with original elite actives or a look-alike option. I liked the way it looked originally . and you can get a much fuller sound out of about anything, except the lipsticks... and active would be cool.. so I sent eric, the guy who ordered the guitar originally, and asked about the set up. This is his responce Hi Lance, I do not have any Fender Strat Elite pickups. Back when I ordered that guitar I was a huge King's X fan, and since Ty Tabor used a Strat Elite I started buying up N.O.S. Elite parts. The pickups in your guitar were brand NEW...from 1985! The bridge and neck PUs were wired up to the switch like as Les Paul.The middle PU was wired so that it could be bought in and out of the circuit...I cannot remember how this was achieved. Push pull pot???? Now I just need to find some pups..
tulk1 Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 Lance, how did you find the original owner? Or did you know something about this guitar before it showed up on the HoC?
barrymclark Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 no way it will stay three singles, I'm thinking of putting active pups in, I can't find a set of fender elites (original) so might go emg.Putting an EMG 81/60/60 in my three pickup 140. If you are planning to route out for three humbuckers, after you get the pickups, call EMG and they will send you the 'old school' stuff you will need. EMG's are now shipping with a nifty solderless install kit. Which is cool for every setup except for the three p'up 3-way switch setup. They shipped mine for free and they should arrive end of this week or early next. Love, love, LOVE the sound of EMG's.
big bob Posted October 29, 2009 Author Posted October 29, 2009 Lance, how did you find the original owner? Or did you know something about this guitar before it showed up on the HoC? Just dumb luck, I did a search for heritage H-150 custom and found that He replayed to one of Brents posts at the les paul forums
tbonesullivan Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 restore it to stock, if possible. Definitely don't make any holes in it though. I'm currently getting ready to have my H-535 re-fitted with the roller bridge and big bad tailpiece. Next string change it goes back to the tech to have the bushings pulled. Big question though is why anyone pulled the bushings in the first place for the tailpiece? it would have been easy to find TOM posts with the proper threading.
smurph1 Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 What no Hillbilly crowbar ? Hey us hillbillies LIKE our crowbars!!LOL
big bob Posted October 29, 2009 Author Posted October 29, 2009 What no Hillbilly crowbar ? that would just be too much gold in one place... it would throw off the balance of the world and we would all die.. Well I just ordered some pups from my friend Brian Gunsher. I not going active, going to stay passive 10 K for bridge, 6.5 K neck and middle. white covers. Hope he has a chance to make them soon. now all I need is a wiring diagram.. Oh Mark...
SouthpawGuy Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 that would just be too much gold in one place... it would throw off the balance of the world and we would all die.. Well I just ordered some pups from my friend Brian Gunsher. I not going active, going to stay passive 10 K for bridge, 6.5 K neck and middle. white covers. Hope he has a chance to make them soon. now all I need is a wiring diagram.. Oh Mark... Maybe check out the Seymour Duncan site: http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-diagrams/
big bob Posted October 29, 2009 Author Posted October 29, 2009 Maybe check out the Seymour Duncan site: http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-diagrams/ not listed there, might be a hard one to find. I may need to design it myself. I wish I was better with schematics. Like, Mark is
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