BigJim Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 Hey All, I have a '90 H-150 with Grover Tuners, I'd like to switch to locking tuners. Anyone know of a good direct replacement? Thanks
big bob Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 steinberger gearless... they work great.. planet waves, work great, schaller, there are others..
tulk1 Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 Hey All, I have a '90 H-150 with Grover Tuners, I'd like to switch to locking tuners. Anyone know of a good direct replacement? Thanks How about Tone Pros Kluson tuners?
BigJim Posted October 29, 2009 Author Posted October 29, 2009 Mine have the "brushed" look. I'd like to get the same in locking.
Cryoman Posted October 30, 2009 Posted October 30, 2009 The TonePros "Klusons" are made in China. Blech! Kluson went out of business in 1964, I believe (someone correct me if I have the year wrong....) I sure like the Sperzel's that Jay Wolfe is having put on some of the new H150s, etc. USA made. Cheers, Cryoman
brentrocks Posted October 30, 2009 Posted October 30, 2009 i have used the locking grovers and i am very happy with them
PacerX Posted October 30, 2009 Posted October 30, 2009 i have used the locking grovers and i am very happy with them I use the same, they work like a charm.
Dick Seacup Posted October 30, 2009 Posted October 30, 2009 My Millie has locking Grovers; work a charm. My dearly departed G&L Comanche had locking Sperzels that were the whip.
pro-fusion Posted October 30, 2009 Posted October 30, 2009 Add the locking Grovers, and you wouldn't have to drill any new holes in the headstock. I've never felt the need to add locking tuners to my fixed-bridge guitars. Just making sure that the nut slots are cut right and/or lubed keeps the tuning very stable. For guitars with trems, though, locking tuners are essential.
Kuz Posted October 30, 2009 Posted October 30, 2009 Add the locking Grovers, and you wouldn't have to drill any new holes in the headstock. I've never felt the need to add locking tuners to my fixed-bridge guitars. Just making sure that the nut slots are cut right and/or lubed keeps the tuning very stable. For guitars with trems, though, locking tuners are essential. AMEN to that. If the guitar isn't a trem, then WHY use locking tuners? I don't get it.
Dick Seacup Posted October 30, 2009 Posted October 30, 2009 [quote name='Kuz' date='Oct 30 2009, 03:19 PM' post='75186' If the guitar isn't a trem, then WHY use locking tuners? I don't get it. Well, my Millie doesn't have a trem, but I can tell you that string changes are an absolute breeze with the lockers. Just pull it through, tighten down, snip off the tag end, tune it up, stretch, re-tune and Bob's your uncle. Eliminates all that pesky winding and winding and winding.
BigJim Posted October 30, 2009 Author Posted October 30, 2009 The Grovers I see, don't have the locking wheel on them. How do they work? Also, they look a little longer than stock, is that the case?
Kuz Posted October 31, 2009 Posted October 31, 2009 [quote name='Kuz' date='Oct 30 2009, 03:19 PM' post='75186'If the guitar isn't a trem, then WHY use locking tuners? I don't get it. Well, my Millie doesn't have a trem, but I can tell you that string changes are an absolute breeze with the lockers. Just pull it through, tighten down, snip off the tag end, tune it up, stretch, re-tune and Bob's your uncle. Eliminates all that pesky winding and winding and winding. Are you saying you are l....a....z....y..... ?
PacerX Posted October 31, 2009 Posted October 31, 2009 Locking tuners also increase tuning stability, even without a trem, so it isn't just about ease of changing strings (although that's undeniably true also). If the string isn't there, then it can't slip. I put lockers on guitars with Floyd Roses also, just to increase tuning stability until I get them clamped off.
Dick Seacup Posted October 31, 2009 Posted October 31, 2009 Are you saying you are l....a....z....y..... ? Well, I prefer to look at it from the perspective of "efficiently maximizing productivity potential." But, yeah, before Demming started a revolution in groupthink, most people would have probably just called it lazy.
Kuz Posted October 31, 2009 Posted October 31, 2009 OK, no problem. TO each his own. I put the string through the stoptail, pull up to the peg, wrap around twice (once on the bottom 3 strings), put string through hole and pull tight, tune to pitch. I do have 3 PRS guitars that have locking tuners. With the above way for non-locking I am almost just as fast as the locking tuners and both stay in tune. I don't have anything against locking tuners, I just wouldn't spend the money because I am almost just as "efficient maximizing productivity" with the non-locking and they stay in tune equally as well. (P.S. I have to stretch new strings on both types of tuners as well)
GuitArtMan Posted October 31, 2009 Posted October 31, 2009 Other than quicker string changes (and that's debatable in my book) I see know advantage in locking tuners. If you're going out of tune you're either not stringing correctly or your nut needs work.
BigJim Posted October 31, 2009 Author Posted October 31, 2009 No tuning problems here. Just want string changes to be easier/faster.
Mikenov Posted October 31, 2009 Posted October 31, 2009 I have the Grovers on one *** two***(edit - forgot, blue burst has em' too) of my guitars and they work great. There is a mechanism inside of them than locks the string in place when you start to tune so there isn't a locking wheel like sperzels or others. I will say I bought locking tuners because of tuning issues and they did nothing to resolve that. That problem didn't get fixed until I replaced my nut. But the side benefit of being able to just pull the string through and turn is pretty cool. Makes for a cleaner stringing and eliminates any possibility of slippage or slack on the tuning peg. The grovers do have the disadvantage of being somewhat tall causing the string angle from the nut to be a little less than a normal tuner. My tech was telling me this could be an issue in some cases but really hasn't been a problem for me.
Kuz Posted October 31, 2009 Posted October 31, 2009 I have the Grovers on one *** two***(edit - forgot, blue burst has em' too) of my guitars and they work great. There is a mechanism inside of them than locks the string in place when you start to tune so there isn't a locking wheel like sperzels or others. I will say I bought locking tuners because of tuning issues and they did nothing to resolve that. That problem didn't get fixed until I replaced my nut. But the side benefit of being able to just pull the string through and turn is pretty cool. Makes for a cleaner stringing and eliminates any possibility of slippage or slack on the tuning peg. The grovers do have the disadvantage of being somewhat tall causing the string angle from the nut to be a little less than a normal tuner. My tech was telling me this could be an issue in some cases but really hasn't been a problem for me. I was going to mention that, but with all the love fest for them, I didn't want to burst anybody's bubble.
BigJim Posted November 1, 2009 Author Posted November 1, 2009 Forget it. I'll just keep on windin', and windn', and windn'.
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