zookroo1 Posted November 17, 2009 Posted November 17, 2009 I was just wondering if there is any particular rhyme or reason the Heritage's model numbering system. Does the H150 have anything to do with the number 150 or was it just a number that sounded good? Some cars that have numbers in the name have to do with the engine size, so maybe there was a system like that for Heritage? If there's an answer I know you guys can tell me!
Thundersteel Posted November 17, 2009 Posted November 17, 2009 The "150" means that there are 150 separate pieces that have to be assembled to make it. Likewise, the H157 has 7 more pieces, mainly for additional binding. And if you believe that, I've got some cheap swampland for sale!
zookroo1 Posted November 17, 2009 Author Posted November 17, 2009 I had no ideas that a 575 was so much more complex than a 140. Where did you say that swampland is, I've been looking for a nice piece of property...
barrymclark Posted November 17, 2009 Posted November 17, 2009 I had no ideas that a 575 was so much more complex than a 140. Where did you say that swampland is, I've been looking for a nice piece of property... Hollows are different. The 575 refers to the 575 grains that must be in every guitar. That is the 555 costs more than the 535. 20 more grains.
SouthpawGuy Posted November 17, 2009 Posted November 17, 2009 Where does that leave the VIP2 ? Damn, I thought something was up ...
brentrocks Posted November 17, 2009 Posted November 17, 2009 The "150" means that there are 150 separate pieces that have to be assembled to make it. Likewise, the H157 has 7 more pieces, mainly for additional binding. And if you believe that, I've got some cheap swampland for sale! well lets count.... body wood = 4 neck wood = 3 fretboard = 8 frets = 22 binding = 4 strap buttons and screws = 4 toggle/pots/jack/wires/caps = 12 pups/trim/screws = 28 tuners/screws = 24 strings = 6 hardware = 20 nut = 1 truss rod/cover = 4 backplates/screws = 10 label = 1 TOTAL = 150
Gitfiddler Posted November 17, 2009 Posted November 17, 2009 There was a very informative thread on this topic a LONG time ago. I could not find it because my boss walked in and disrupted my research. So I'll go with TSteel's response.
Thundersteel Posted November 17, 2009 Posted November 17, 2009 zookroo, honestly, I have no idea. Maybe others in the know can enlighten us.
High Flying Bird Posted November 17, 2009 Posted November 17, 2009 I could not find it because my boss walked in and disrupted my research. Hahahaha............. I like T's answer too.
tbonesullivan Posted November 18, 2009 Posted November 18, 2009 well... no need to ask where they got 535 and 555 from. maybe 150 just seemed like a good number to start with, and then like Gibson you make lower numbers for less blinged out guitars, and higher numbers for more blinged out guitars.
tulk1 Posted November 18, 2009 Posted November 18, 2009 Just a bit of odd history - the Gib 175 and 335 were named for their retail price. Nothing special in the naming other than the cost.
smurph1 Posted November 18, 2009 Posted November 18, 2009 Just a bit of odd history - the Gib 175 and 335 were named for their retail price. Nothing special in the naming other than the cost. Is that really true? Or should I start looking at swampland?
Gitfiddler Posted November 18, 2009 Posted November 18, 2009 This is a good question that remains a bit of a mystery. Maybe one of the folks from Heritage will chime in and give us the real deal. Otherwise we'll continue to offer our ususal HOC-approved speculation. Speaking of speculation, here's mine... Heritage was founded by 5 former Gibson employees, right? (See exerpt from the Heritage website): "...3 men, Jim Deurloo, Marvin Lamb, and JP Moats, decided to start a guitar manufacturing business. In 1985 when the company was incorporated, 2 other former Gibson Guitar Corporation employees, Bill Paige and Mike Korpak, joined as owners..." So if there were 5 owners, why not include the number '5' in the model numbers. (i.e. H150, H155, H157, H525, H535, H555, H550, H575, etc.). I don't have a clue where the first guitar, H-140 name/number came from. But this is just fun speculation anyway. The new number sequence also pays subtle homage to the guitar design 'heritage' of the former Gibson models, particularly the ES (Electric Spanish) gits (i.e. ES225, ES335, ES345, ES355, ES165, ES175, etc.). OK, so there were '5's in each of those names also! Keep in mind that this is NOT the official answer to the origins of the model numbers, but it seems perfectly logical to this old gitfidder.
tulk1 Posted November 18, 2009 Posted November 18, 2009 Is that really true? Or should I start looking at swampland? Wish I could find the article, but that is the scoop as I remember reading it. Named for the price. Thought it very odd at the time, so it stuck with me. Doesn't mean you can't buy my swamp land, tho'. If you really want it. edit: Well, here you go. Directly from Wikipedia (our motto: Change history with the stroke of a key). Gibs ES-175
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