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Thanks everybody!

I didn't want to bother anybody and remember I'm proud to be an H owner!(I love my 575!!!!!!!!!!!!!!).

But remember: respect first of all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mr Lh575 I'm not insulting your country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is really shameful.

Thanks jazzpunk I'll take your advise

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Thanks everybody!

I didn't want to bother anybody and remember I'm proud to be an H owner!(I love my 575!!!!!!!!!!!!!!).

But remember: respect first of all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mr Lh575 I'm not insulting your country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is really shameful.

Thanks jazzpunk I'll take your advise

 

Bebove64 - I think you misunderstood LH575. We had a VERY long discussion of this earlier, as you know. I think LH575 (and many others) was getting tired of the whole subject, and also tired of criticizing the SHAPE of the Heritage headstock because he thinks the more important question is its function - does it work well? Is it a good instrument? He was making a sarcastic joke about shape (form) vs function: he was asking, do we criticize countries for their SHAPE? Of course not. He was pretending to criticize Italy's shape to show how ridiculous that would be. Some others made fun of the shape of Florida, and of the USA.

 

Thank for joining and participating! The level of our humor here is very low, because we like it that way! :thumbsup:

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OMG, you owe me a new computer screen and a full beer..

 

How does Samuel Smith's Oatmeal Stout sound to you?

 

Sorry about the screen--maybe a tissue or moist towellette may help. :thumbsup:

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Promised myself I wouldn't participate.... (Deep sigh!) Oh well.... This headstock shape discussion is just...silly....

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:thumbsup:

 

I like ice cream.

I like ice cream too!!;)

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Personally, I think the headstock is fine!! Maybe if they were all bound headstocks, they would be a little more appealing.

 

JJ

 

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Hey Bebove64,

 

Man, I was just being sarcastic. No offense meant.

 

Italy probably has one of the coolest shapes of any country! I'm Irish, and grew up in Illinois. Talk about two geographical locations with no shape at all! If you were to swash a bug with your boot, they's look much like those two locations.

 

Again, no offense.

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Personally, I think the headstock is fine!! Maybe if they were all bound headstocks, they would be a little more appealing.

 

JJ

 

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550? Love that guitar.
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The headstock shape was molded after an early Gibson 1920's L-2. The Heritage for sure.

 

1924L2.jpg

 

 

Maybe the most important post here at HOC of all time!!!!

 

The Heritage headstock is a calumniation of HISTORY & FUNCTION.

 

This should stop all debates.....

 

Great find Mike.

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The headstock shape was molded after an early Gibson 1920's L-2. The Heritage for sure.

 

1924L2.jpg

 

Are you sure that's not a Hamer?!

 

(runs out of the forum! :P )

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The headstock shape was molded after an early Gibson 1920's L-2. The Heritage for sure.

 

Now THAT is really interesting! That's the first time I've seen that. See, I knew that, sooner or later, some good would come of this debate, somehow. You just have to wait. :P

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Hallo everybody,

sorry about my misunderstanding (it 's hard to understand all your answers for me! sorry Lh575,sorry Jmc 7581), I've got to translate almost everything from english into italian and so for me it's easy to lose the really sense of the phrase, your sense of humor!

thanks guys (getting proud of my headstock!!!!!!!!!!)

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Hey Bebove64,

 

Man, I was just being sarcastic. No offense meant.

 

Italy probably has one of the coolest shapes of any country! I'm Irish, and grew up in Illinois. Talk about two geographical locations with no shape at all! If you were to swash a bug with your boot, they's look much like those two locations.

 

Again, no offense.

Hallo everybody,

sorry about my misunderstanding (it 's hard to understand all your answers for me! sorry Lh575,sorry Jmc 7581), I've got to translate almost everything from english into italian and so for me it's easy to lose the really sense of the phrase, your sense of humor!

thanks guys (getting proud of my headstock!!!!!!!!!!)

bebove

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Ya know, I've been lobbying for us to all start using LATIN for the HOC threads...just like the Vatican!

 

Too many misunderstandings or crap that gets lost in translation.

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The headstock shape was molded after an early Gibson 1920's L-2. The Heritage for sure.

 

1924L2.jpg

 

Heritage used this headstock shape on both guitars and mandolins. The mandolins with this shape are called "snakeheads," and they are considered better sounding, and are more valuable, than same-model mandolins that have rectangular headstocks (both styles were produced. Must have been nay sayers in the 1920s as well). Because the "snakeheads" are part of Gibson lore (remember, Orville's innovation was the archtop mandolin ...guitars came later), I always thought the Heritage shape was borrowed from the mandolins ... but guitar or mandolin, the shape is definitely part of the K'zoo tradition.

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Whoops. Previous post should have said "Gibson" used, of course, (and Heritage resurrected.) If you search "snakehead mandolin," it will take you to pics of this headstock I've posted previously. Same shape, same "the Gibson" inlay as Slider's L-2.

 

Guit, there's a pun to be made about the vatican, HOC and Latin, but I can't seem to work it out. Just another hoc post fallacy, I guess.

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Questo posto fa schifo!

 

OK, not really, but that's all the Italian I know and I wanted to make him feel welcome.

 

 

Questo! I luv Questo, especially the white kind with my tortilla chips! fa sho! :P

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veni vidi vici

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Hallo everybody,

sorry about my misunderstanding (it 's hard to understand all your answers for me! sorry Lh575,sorry Jmc 7581), I've got to translate almost everything from english into italian and so for me it's easy to lose the really sense of the phrase, your sense of humor!

thanks guys (getting proud of my headstock!!!!!!!!!!)

bebove

 

I'm glad that's cleared up. We didn't want the Great Headstock War of 2009 to become an international conflict! :P

 

I admire you for posting in a foreign language. I'd be terrified.

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Heritage used this headstock shape on both guitars and mandolins. The mandolins with this shape are called "snakeheads," and they are considered better sounding, and are more valuable, than same-model mandolins that have rectangular headstocks (both styles were produced. Must have been nay sayers in the 1920s as well). Because the "snakeheads" are part of Gibson lore (remember, Orville's innovation was the archtop mandolin ...guitars came later), I always thought the Heritage shape was borrowed from the mandolins ... but guitar or mandolin, the shape is definitely part of the K'zoo tradition.

 

Hey , I like where this thought is going.... if we are going to look at sources of headstock styles that are derived from the most coveted and valuable early Gibson mandolins.......

 

Well then.... :PF-4_Headstock_-_no_strings.jpg

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