groovin Posted March 2, 2008 Posted March 2, 2008 I just browsed Youtube and found this post of Vince Lewis and another playing the jazz standard "Autumn Leaves" using their Heritage guitars. Well worth a listen! 8) www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPJ41d8_Kjs&NR=1
cosmikdebriis Posted March 2, 2008 Posted March 2, 2008 Nice... I always envy Jazz players. My head (or fingers) just don't seem to work that way :-[
Thundersteel Posted March 2, 2008 Posted March 2, 2008 They're awesome! But I don't think I could ever play like that; I'm too much into rock & metal.
brentrocks Posted March 2, 2008 Posted March 2, 2008 They're awesome! But I don't think I could ever play like that; I'm too much into rock & metal. not my thing either, but i do recognize talent, and that was some good pickin
Dick Seacup Posted March 2, 2008 Posted March 2, 2008 I love "Autumn Leaves." Great playing; were those all heritage guitars on that table in the background?
Kazwell Posted March 2, 2008 Posted March 2, 2008 Vituoso level playing here!!!! I like videos like this because the camera is set up "dead on"-as in no edits with closeups on face-far shots-you know, stuff you usually see on TV music productions. On this video you can see the hands on the fretboard and watch exactly what they are doing from beginning to end of their solos. I bookmarked this one. Will make a great practice video. Thanks groovin!!!!
les paulverizer Posted March 2, 2008 Posted March 2, 2008 They're awesome! But I don't think I could ever play like that; I'm too much into rock & metal. Well Thundersteel.....yes and no; what those guys are playin' and the stuff you said you're into, the two are actually closer than you think. Metal, whichever kind, comes from Hard/HeavyRock which in turn comes from Rock'n'Roll, which comes from Country and Blues, which is where Jazz comes from. Blues was nothin' but African music played by (originally) african people on western instruments and obviously influenced somehow by "white men" music; the proof is that one can feel A LOT of blues even in standard Country Music. Blues is responsible for 90% of 20th Century Music anyway, in one way or another. Now, even an idiot raised on Mars knows that Jazz is but an evolution of Blues, right? Things get extremely interestin' cuz in the glorious 50's, when The Mighty Rock'n'Roll was born, those cats didn't know what the heck they were doin'!!! They were at the forefront; Scotty Moore, Elvis's marvellous guitar player, mixed a lil' Country and a lil' Jazz and came up with a delicious formula and like-wise delicious results. The Beatles and all the subsequent 60's bands owed e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g to those Rock'n'Roll/Rockabilly cats, thus Rock, as we know it, was born. It's also interestin' to note that Black Sabbath, the truly original Heavy Metal band, started as a straighforward blues band and that Tony Iommi admits to also be hugely and heavily influenced by Django Rheinhardt, a Jazz guitarist and The Original Guitar Hero; so are Ritchie Blacmore, Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page,....the masters and originators of Rock and somehow Heavy Metal. Basically, like the mighty Muddy Waters sang in one of his songs, "the Blues had a baby and they called it Rock'n'Roll"; we can also add that Rock had a baby and they called it Heavy Metal, but if you rewind the whole thing you end up at the same starin' point, hence we can confidently state that Rock (any kind of Rock) and Jazz are cousins!!!! I play (professionally) Hard Rock but always had an ear for Jazz: like a lot of people I've always had an healthy mixture of respect and admiration for those cats plus, some Jazz is sooooooo down right Sexy....(at the right time!)...! As soon as I tried to dabble with it I realized that all I had to do was to expand/evolve my knowledge of the Blues and somehow apply what technique I have acquired by playin' Rock. I'm NOT sayin' I'm a Jazz-bo (not by a long shot!), but I've had the lucky chance of sittin' in with some straight ahead Jazz guys, and I've definitely held my own, in my own kinda way, but nobody thought I was a schmuck and everybody had a good time, which is the Number 1 reason to make Music anyway...! There's also one last thing to keep in mind; Jazz, Country and Classic/Hard/HeavyRock are the only kinds of music left where if you can't play your audience will desert you. Just think; can you imagine someone like Ozzy Osbourne goin' on tour with people below a certain standard? His audience would leave there and then, and the same applies to 99.9% of any Country and (obviously Jazz acts! Just start listenin' to some Jazz stuff, really l-i-s-t-e-n to it, get the feel/feel the groove, get some tips from some legit Jazz cats about theory/substitutions/inversions, chances are that some of it you know already (maybe you don't know you know it...!) and you'll love it more and more! I nearly forgot; Miles Davis expressed a serious interest in Jimi Hendrix and planned to do some recordin' with him, but unfortunately we know what happened. The question is; who was heavier than Jimi, and who was jazzier than Miles? N-o-b-o-d-y! Rock on my friend...
Kazwell Posted March 3, 2008 Posted March 3, 2008 Metal, whichever kind, comes from Hard/HeavyRock which in turn comes from Rock'n'Roll, which comes from Country and Blues, which is where Jazz comes from.Blues was nothin' but African music played by (originally) african people on western instruments and obviously influenced somehow by "white men" music; the proof is that one can feel A LOT of blues even in standard Country Music. Blues is responsible for 90% of 20th Century Music anyway, in one way or another. Now, even an idiot raised on Mars knows that Jazz is but an evolution of Blues, right? Things get extremely interestin' cuz in the glorious 50's, when The Mighty Rock'n'Roll was born, those cats didn't know what the heck they were doin'!!! They were at the forefront; Scotty Moore, Elvis's marvellous guitar player, mixed a lil' Country and a lil' Jazz and came up with a delicious formula and like-wise delicious results. The Beatles and all the subsequent 60's bands owed e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g to those Rock'n'Roll/Rockabilly cats, thus Rock, as we know it, was born. It's also interestin' to note that Black Sabbath, the truly original Heavy Metal band, started as a straighforward blues band and that Tony Iommi admits to also be hugely and heavily influenced by Django Rheinhardt, a Jazz guitarist and The Original Guitar Hero; so are Ritchie Blacmore, Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page,....the masters and originators of Rock and somehow Heavy Metal. Couldn't agree with you more les paulverizer You sort of touched upon it mentioning Django, but Flemenco, which is also derived from gypsy music is borrowed from in the metal world-the phrygian mode commonly associated to Spanish guitar was used heavily in the 80's genre speed metal movement but modern metal players still dip from the well as far as this mode is concerned. When you think about Flemenco, or gypsy and of course modern jazz guitar, one characteristic that is common in all three is fast, if not ultra fast riffing. Think the metal heads call it shredding.
Thundersteel Posted March 3, 2008 Posted March 3, 2008 Well said, Les! Maybe they're closer than what I had originally thought. I also consider Bluegrass to be the Heavy Metal version of country music.
AaronF Posted March 4, 2008 Posted March 4, 2008 Wow, just wow! Aside from to incredibly cool jazz soloing going on (talk about melodic), the rhythm playing is pretty cool. I really think the way he (the guy on the left) is accenting certain beats and playing with a staccato feel, he leaves more space for the soloist to work. He also seems to be doing nice work with voice leading and picking voicings that don't muddy up the sound, keeping everything spaced out. Man I wish I were good enough to consider myself a jazz player!
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