Sparky Posted May 26, 2010 Posted May 26, 2010 If I were to send a guitar to Heritage and asked them to build one like it, would they do it? Something not in their current product line.
brentrocks Posted May 26, 2010 Posted May 26, 2010 i highly doubt it...but you never know untill you ask
barrymclark Posted May 26, 2010 Posted May 26, 2010 I highly doubt it as well. Reason being is that, at the end of the day, it has their name on it and their current line has been tested, revised, sold for decades and tweaked further. To make yours, they would have to shove a lot if R&D into a relatively short time frame for a one-off and they would either have to charge you an insane amount of money to cover the R&D or just flat out lose money and never make it back as it is a one off. If they aren't willing to change the headstock on a guitar to be like the Centurion, then aren't likely to change their bodies either. All kinds of signs just point to 'no'. But... you never know until you ask and the worst they can say is 'no'.
FredZepp Posted May 26, 2010 Posted May 26, 2010 If I were to send a guitar to Heritage and asked them to build one like it, would they do it? Something not in their current product line. So... what is this guitar that you desire to have replicated...?
Dick Seacup Posted May 26, 2010 Posted May 26, 2010 So... what is this guitar that you desire to have replicated...? My money is on "Ibanez Gem with Monkey Grip"
Patrick Posted May 26, 2010 Posted May 26, 2010 Not only would they not build it . . . but if doing so would be plagerizing another builder's designs or patents . . . they would probably be offended that someone asked them to do so. Don't forget . . . Vince Margol is an attorney. Also, I believe (based upon conversations I've had with them) that the philosophy going forward for Heritage is going to remain;; "we are Hertitage Guitar Company . . . we build Heritage designed guitars ONLY . .. unless we are licensed and paid by another company to build their product on their behalf" The owners at Heritage are EXTREMELY flexable and accommodating in their willingness to alter their own design to meet a specific customer's requests. But it will still be a variation on their design and concepts. I also believe that this is a very sound and ethical business principal.
Patrick Posted May 26, 2010 Posted May 26, 2010 Not only would they not build it . . . but if doing so would be plagerizing another builder's designs or patents . . . they would probably be offended that someone asked them to do so. Don't forget . . . Vince Margol is an attorney. Also, I believe (based upon conversations I've had with them) that the philosophy going forward for Heritage is going to remain;; "we are Hertitage Guitar Company . . . we build Heritage designed guitars ONLY . .. unless we are licensed and paid by another company to build their product on their behalf" The owners at Heritage are EXTREMELY flexable and accommodating in their willingness to alter their own design to meet a specific customer's requests. But it will still be a variation on their design and concepts. I also believe that this is a very sound and ethical business principal. oops!! spelling snafoos . . . plagerizing should have been plagiarizing . . . and flexable should have been flexible. I gusee I should read what I am typing on the fly
tbonesullivan Posted May 26, 2010 Posted May 26, 2010 yeah, so what's the guitar? They have build a wide variety of guitars in the past, so maybe there is something that is LIKE the one you want, but not exactly.
barrymclark Posted May 26, 2010 Posted May 26, 2010 Not only would they not build it . . . but if doing so would be plagerizing another builder's designs or patents . . .The patents thing I can say for sure they would get hopped on for should that condition exist but the designs thing, well, Heritage has the battle scars from that and they came out pretty clean with regards to legal impact although I am sure their wallet was pretty sore. There seems to be a LARGE grey area on this one. I am not a lawyer but having following the lawsuits of the 80's and 90's, the decisions made are what gave me that conclusion. Gibson can't rightly say they own single cut designs or double cut designs but the design of the entire guitar I believe is where it a company get get smacked. If the headstock, body and hardware seem to be dead ringers at some distance, then I guess that is where you get into danger of lawsuit. of course, if you are small enough, Gibson or whoever might not care.
blueox Posted May 26, 2010 Posted May 26, 2010 "If I were to send a guitar to Heritage and asked them to build one like it, would they do it? Something not in their current product line." If the key phrase here is "their current product line", are you wondering about something Heritage made at one time, such as the H-357?
Sparky Posted May 26, 2010 Author Posted May 26, 2010 My money is on "Ibanez Gem with Monkey Grip" Oooooh.... shwing anna miss!
Sparky Posted May 26, 2010 Author Posted May 26, 2010 The H110 is close to it, but I still be havin' concerns over upper fret access. Note that the guitar posted is lefty-strung righty.... I got lucky with that one. I was able to buy an aftermarket Gotoh tune-o-matic that is wide enough to accommodate the backward bridge mounting (for me) so intonation was achievable. My last Heritage (now owned by Simon in Australia) was custom made with the angle of the bridge corrected for right-handed stringing. F'd up... I know.
cod65 Posted May 27, 2010 Posted May 27, 2010 ok Albert King-Dick Dale! I believe the only non-Heritage branded guitars ever made in K'zoo were D'Angelico copies.
yoslate Posted May 27, 2010 Posted May 27, 2010 ok Albert King-Dick Dale! Who's Albert Dale? And that's kind of a presumptuous, not to mention tasteless, nickname...isn't it?
big bob Posted May 27, 2010 Posted May 27, 2010 ok Albert King-Dick Dale! I believe the only non-Heritage branded guitars ever made in K'zoo were D'Angelico copies. they made some guild solid bodies as well.
ledzef Posted May 27, 2010 Posted May 27, 2010 Who's Albert Dale? Albert Dale is the King of Surfer Blues.
Sparky Posted May 27, 2010 Author Posted May 27, 2010 ok Albert King-Dick Dale! I believe the only non-Heritage branded guitars ever made in K'zoo were D'Angelico copies. Thats exactly correct sir.
Sparky Posted May 27, 2010 Author Posted May 27, 2010 ok Albert King-Dick Dale! I believe the only non-Heritage branded guitars ever made in K'zoo were D'Angelico copies. Smoke a bowl and go cat go.
big bob Posted May 27, 2010 Posted May 27, 2010 Thats exactly correct sir. No Not true. Heritage Ghost built a stat type guitar for Guild in the 80's..
barrymclark Posted May 27, 2010 Posted May 27, 2010 ok Albert King-Dick Dale! I believe the only non-Heritage branded guitars ever made in K'zoo were D'Angelico copies. ...and Gretsch.
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